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104. That angle is *everywhere* here in India.

Fri Dec 20, 2013, 12:58 AM

Dec 2013

All the major party politicians are running with it. It's like bizarro-world.

Khobagadre's rich and influential father (who also got her an apartment in south Mumbai that was supposed to be set aside for war widows, but that's a different story...) got a judge in Delhi to slap a judgement against her and her family for having the audacity to report her treatment to US authorities and demand her back wages (that's the "blackmail" people are talking about: she asked for the money she was owed under the terms of her visa application). The US has a special class of visas for persons in this situation (T-1, T-2, and T-3; seriously, it's amazing how many different visa classes there are) so they granted them to her family and got them to the US. But it's not just cynical cronyism; I've had otherwise very liberal people here tell me with a straight face "of course that's blackmail". This is a big disconnect.

The only question here seems to be whether Bharara is a self-loathing Indian, or whether he is an otherwise good man duped by (ominous music) the scheming maid.

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Diplomat's arrest: US distances itself from Preet Bharara's comments; India wants apology, case drop [View all] cosmicone Dec 2013 OP

Biased source. Please find a real link. closeupready Dec 2013 #1

Times of India is the world's largest circulation English paper cosmicone Dec 2013 #4

since when is TOI an unreliable source? mike_c Dec 2013 #38

this is starting to remind me of those defending Duck Dynasty JI7 Dec 2013 #2

But wait! Purple heart band-aids! Pakistani terrorism! closeupready Dec 2013 #3

the OP claimed in another thread that the nanny being paid slave wages JI7 Dec 2013 #7

Oopphh, teehee! That's a rather interesting use of an old saw. closeupready Dec 2013 #8

What do Americans pay to their household help in India? cosmicone Dec 2013 #6

so you think it should be ok to pay indian citizens working in the US JI7 Dec 2013 #9

It has not even been established if the maid was paid less than minimum cosmicone Dec 2013 #12

The maid was an Indian citizen, working for a representative of the Indian government... smitra Dec 2013 #43

then why did she lie about it on the application, no it's not ok to pay someone slave wages JI7 Dec 2013 #51

The BBC said there were two contracts. One to meet the Vienna Conv/US requirements and the real one okaawhatever Dec 2013 #112

I will answer it and it is not a fair question. The answer to both what the US consuls pay their okaawhatever Dec 2013 #114

This - Visa Fraud JustAnotherGen Dec 2013 #126

Any links to cases violating the law of India? treestar Dec 2013 #116

The maid ended up at a safe house for human-traffick victims, from what I've read. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #5

The maid came here voluntarily cosmicone Dec 2013 #10

slavery is not ok JI7 Dec 2013 #13

What slavery? cosmicone Dec 2013 #19

it's not ok to pay someone less than minimum wage and make up for it with a plane ticket or some JI7 Dec 2013 #23

Again, it has NOT been established that she was not paid minimum wage cosmicone Dec 2013 #41

it's been established a lot more than the Maid being a CIA Agent JI7 Dec 2013 #45

No, that's merely been charged. That's why we have trials. Recursion Dec 2013 #98

The BBC is reporting that there were two contracts. One for $573 per month. That's a pretty specific okaawhatever Dec 2013 #113

Has this case been tried already? Could you link us to the resolution of the maid's case where we sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #107

if you are paying less than 3 dollars in the US it's fucking Slavery JI7 Dec 2013 #108

I asked for links, not your personal 'reporting'. Where are you getting this from, was there a trial sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #111

OMG. THE SCHEMING MAID!!!! TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #14

well, she is a CIA Agent JI7 Dec 2013 #16

She may be. Do you know for sure she is not? n/t cosmicone Dec 2013 #21

it's no different than those who think MAlala is JI7 Dec 2013 #27

Explain how that works Bradical79 Dec 2013 #55

How do you prove someone is? cosmicone Dec 2013 #58

Two clearly different tasks Bradical79 Dec 2013 #71

How many people knew Valerie Plame was a CIA agent cosmicone Dec 2013 #78

That makes no sense. Bradical79 Dec 2013 #87

Yes, unless the CIA wanted to spy on the halfway house for trafficked women Recursion Dec 2013 #97

If she is, does that mean she deserves the low pay? treestar Dec 2013 #117

That angle is *everywhere* here in India. Recursion Dec 2013 #104

BTW, you do understand that in this country we arrest those (who don't actually have TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #17

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #31

"Useless immigrant couple...providing for them..." You have revealed so much TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #39

I am not looking down on her because she is a maid cosmicone Dec 2013 #46

I don't think you know the full story yet, unless you are somehow connected to this case. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #52

The consular officers don't pay their servants cosmicone Dec 2013 #54

Maybe that's why India is so goddamn embarrassed, then, huh? TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #61

In any event, there was no need to arrest the Consul General cosmicone Dec 2013 #66

Right, but the allegation here is that Khobragade was taking the money alloted to her maid Recursion Dec 2013 #101

"useless immigrant couple" ? did you make a mistake and thing you were on FReerepublic ? JI7 Dec 2013 #42

a "useless immigrant couple?" mike_c Dec 2013 #44

See post No. 46 cosmicone Dec 2013 #50

You use the term "useless immigrant couple" here like you are at FoxNews.com or FreeRepublic. TeamPooka Dec 2013 #73

See my explanatory posts above cosmicone Dec 2013 #76

note that your post was hidden by jury decision. TeamPooka Dec 2013 #89

good thing, the attacks on the maid there are really disgusting JI7 Dec 2013 #11

There is due process of law in India cosmicone Dec 2013 #15

he must hate Italian AMericans also since he goes after those italian american mafia JI7 Dec 2013 #20

Mafia are violent criminals who commit murders etc. cosmicone Dec 2013 #22

Treating Workers like Shit is a violent crime also JI7 Dec 2013 #24

It has not been established that she was treated like shit cosmicone Dec 2013 #28

why would a CIA agent need to worry about something like that ? JI7 Dec 2013 #30

Scheming maid and CIA agent are two separate theories cosmicone Dec 2013 #33

BEHNGHAZI JI7 Dec 2013 #40

It is spelled B-E-N-G-A-Z-I cosmicone Dec 2013 #56

actually it's spelled BENGHAZI JI7 Dec 2013 #60

well spotted. n/t cosmicone Dec 2013 #79

Well, *actually* it's spelled... Recursion Dec 2013 #99

Yeah...well, I'm "humiliated" everytime I leave the country and come back. They.... BlueJazz Dec 2013 #18

You are not a diplomat. That's the difference, even if you... smitra Dec 2013 #25

She is from India where they treat women like HORSESHIT. I-Don't Care. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #36

Spare me that total B.S. Keep your biases and racism to yourself. smitra Dec 2013 #47

I agree, but the jury didn't Bradical79 Dec 2013 #92

Are you really going to call it racism now? treestar Dec 2013 #119

He/she called me a racist in another recent thread, for closeupready Dec 2013 #121

You are not handcuffed, cavity searched and thrown in a jail cell cosmicone Dec 2013 #26

the drug addicts are the real victims to be grouped up with a human trafficker JI7 Dec 2013 #29

WTF, "drug addicts"? I used to work with 'em. They're human beings as much as TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #32

Why don't you volunteer to stay in a jail cell with a few of them cosmicone Dec 2013 #35

Um, well, it probably won't come up since I didn't submit fraudulent info TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #49

So it is okay to give fraudulent information cosmicone Dec 2013 #53

Of course not. If the maid is charged and found guilty in the US of any crimes, TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #59

In the end, the maid will be proven to have lied cosmicone Dec 2013 #62

Throwing every other case you can think of at this issue in order to cloud it TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #67

All diplomatic posts of all countries cosmicone Dec 2013 #70

Yep, someone finally got caught flouting the law and was held accountable. TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #93

She is from India where they treat women like HORSESHIT. I-Don't Care. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #34

Heard of Steubenville? n/t cosmicone Dec 2013 #37

BINGO! Those who live in glass houses.... smitra Dec 2013 #48

Post removed Post removed Dec 2013 #65

Nice to know you're not unbiased or poorly informed. cosmicone Dec 2013 #68

Yes. You are right. Everybody is allowed to despise (at least) ONE thing. Mine is India. BlueJazz Dec 2013 #82

You made that rule up for yourself? Really, amazing that a small-minded person like you... smitra Dec 2013 #85

Yes..It IS rather cool...isn't it ? BlueJazz Dec 2013 #86

You are going on my Ignore list. n/t smitra Dec 2013 #88

So you're pissed because I don't care for India...ok...because I hate India? BlueJazz Dec 2013 #90

You are entitled to your biased opinion. smitra Dec 2013 #72

There being rape in the US as there is everywhere treestar Dec 2013 #118

I fail to see how paying someone substandard wages and falsifying govt documents BainsBane Dec 2013 #102

OK. That, right there, is where Americans stop listening... Recursion Dec 2013 #103

Amen JustAnotherGen Dec 2013 #128

American hypocrisy? smitra Dec 2013 #57

i don't get it, you should be calling for the arrest of these people , not using the "everyone else JI7 Dec 2013 #63

I am informing the readers of this thread how the SYSTEM works... smitra Dec 2013 #64

so demand arrest for others, this is like saying a rapist should not be arrested and charged JI7 Dec 2013 #69

The comparisons between this case and rape are inappropriate, and odious. This should be clear to... smitra Dec 2013 #74

if you don't want any repsonses don't post on an online discussion forum JI7 Dec 2013 #77

I don't want responses from uninformed, biased people like you... smitra Dec 2013 #80

you accusing others of bias is hilarious JI7 Dec 2013 #81

This is one post to which I will respond with one word: LOL. End of discussion.n/t smitra Dec 2013 #84

Another link of corruption by US consular officers cosmicone Dec 2013 #75

Amazing, isnt' it? smitra Dec 2013 #83

Read the complaint here Ash_F Dec 2013 #91

I think it's more fraud than wage theft. The accused in this case submitted false TwilightGardener Dec 2013 #94

Yeah, I know that is what she was specifically jailed for Ash_F Dec 2013 #96

I agree. Bradical79 Dec 2013 #95

The falsified contract is what's causing the reaction Recursion Dec 2013 #106

Just to point out: You CAN be jailed for wage theft. Ash_F Dec 2013 #110

Am I reading this right? "But Mom! You didn't spank Tommy when HE did it! This isn't FAIR!" cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #100

Quoting Hussain Haqqani, Karl Inderfurth... smitra Dec 2013 #105

it's really frustrating but it comes back to people seeing Domestic Workers and other Poor as not JI7 Dec 2013 #109

With a measure of sadness, I am trashing this thread. smitra Dec 2013 #115

Oh, get over yourself. You branded me a racist in another recent thread. closeupready Dec 2013 #120

Exactly the kind of person that caused me to trash the threads, and make my point. smitra Dec 2013 #123

123 responses, and even YOU didn't rec the thread. closeupready Dec 2013 #124

Incarceration gets everyone strip searched seveneyes Dec 2013 #122

methinks India doth protest too much... Blue_Tires Dec 2013 #125

she should have been treated with the Niceguy1 Dec 2013 #127

Foreign diplomats are allowed to bring household staff with them. Beacool Dec 2013 #129