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RiverNoord

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23. 'Anti-protest' laws are always stupid when enacted by a weak

Reply to joshcryer (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 22, 2014, 10:16 AM

Feb 2014

government against relatively powerful protesting blocs. Tell someone they can't protest, and you give them a fantastic opportunity to prove their level of commitment and gain a larger audience than they had before.

Such laws only work when the government has very clear control over the people who will have to do the killing when the trigger is pulled. (China in Tienanmen, for example...)

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Ukraine's Southeast seeks to restore constitutional order, thousands gather in Kharkov. [View all] another_liberal Feb 2014 OP

Not a surprise RiverNoord Feb 2014 #1

However corrupt Yanukovich might be . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #2

There are seldom 'good guys' and 'bad guys' RiverNoord Feb 2014 #4

That's an understatement! another_liberal Feb 2014 #14

At least you have to respect that people are willing RiverNoord Feb 2014 #20

Occupy Wall Street did just that. nt valerief Feb 2014 #28

Yanukovich does have a penchant for bloodshed. joshcryer Feb 2014 #5

The Sochi Olympics do end today or tomorrow, right? another_liberal Feb 2014 #6

Well, if he values his life... RiverNoord Feb 2014 #9

You forgot to mention . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #12

Eh, too many play into it. joshcryer Feb 2014 #16

Good point. another_liberal Feb 2014 #18

'Anti-protest' laws are always stupid when enacted by a weak RiverNoord Feb 2014 #23

Well, big money always seeks hegemony. RiverNoord Feb 2014 #21

25% ethnic Ukranian and 12% Tatars makes that difficult. joshcryer Feb 2014 #3

Yes, but Putin's Russia would welcome RiverNoord Feb 2014 #7

Certainly the ustream on the RT article suggests this was planned. joshcryer Feb 2014 #10

Oh yes, the authorities in Crimea are actively RiverNoord Feb 2014 #17

True enough . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #8

It would be nice to see one young country in turmoil RiverNoord Feb 2014 #11

Certainly if there was an invasion force. joshcryer Feb 2014 #13

I would not want to be Yanukovich . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #15

Well, she wasn't exactly a paragon of virtue in office RiverNoord Feb 2014 #19

Being made a martyr by Yanukovich . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #25

A Russian invasion in this situation would be RiverNoord Feb 2014 #22

I agree about the Tatar issue and am worried about issues there Paula Sims Feb 2014 #32

And the real 'fun :-(' begins. RiverNoord Feb 2014 #24

Don't expect this to go quietly into the good night Paula Sims Feb 2014 #26

I'm just an observer of the events in Ukraine . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #27

Thank you Paula Sims Feb 2014 #30

Stay safe . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #33

Thank you for taking the time to write your post. pangaia Feb 2014 #29

Thank you Paula Sims Feb 2014 #31

may have "democratically elected" but not without high levels of fraud. dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #34

Key phrase: "until the constitutional order in Ukraine is restored". Tom Rinaldo Feb 2014 #35

I am reasonably confident . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #36