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Benton D Struckcheon

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51. We'll see.

Sat Jun 28, 2014, 10:51 PM

Jun 2014

Arms exports are sterile; if anything they hurt a country's competitiveness by taking engineers who could be working on something useful and instead putting them to work designing stuff that destroys other stuff.
Putin & Medvedev have been in charge for a long enough time that the entire blame for the sorry state of Russia falls on their shoulders. If it's going to change, it will be when someone else with a different vision for the country is allowed to take over.

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Ukraine's Poroshenko signs EU accord [View all] fireflysky46 Jun 2014 OP

Ronald McDonald is cheering. nt elias49 Jun 2014 #1

It remains to be seen. The EU did not offer much and they severed ties with their newthinking Jun 2014 #2

Sole beneficiary is the EU dipsydoodle Jun 2014 #10

I had not seen that they severed trading ties with Russia. That seems like an odd thing to do. pampango Jun 2014 #11

Perhaps Russia will be the one to sever ties. amandabeech Jun 2014 #22

If Russia is the one severing ties that would not be Ukraine's fault. pampango Jun 2014 #25

I agree. Russia is responsible for its own actions. amandabeech Jun 2014 #32

I think most folks on DU understand that "Free Trade" agreements are "favorable to certain party" newthinking Jun 2014 #26

That is no reason for their trade with Russia to be affected. Mexico's FTA with the US pampango Jun 2014 #29

Russia also withstood the poor quality of their industrial output dipsydoodle Jun 2014 #37

The EU did not sever ties with russia. Here are the working agreements with all countries Sunlei Jun 2014 #56

The piper has to be paid . . . another_liberal Jun 2014 #3

Sadly yes... Xolodno Jun 2014 #21

Or some Right Sector hot head may put a bullet in Poro . . . another_liberal Jun 2014 #23

Don't think it will come to that.... Xolodno Jun 2014 #24

But Kiev hasn't yet got Donetsk, Slavyansk or Lugansk back . . . another_liberal Jun 2014 #27

And will probably be a thorn in the side... Xolodno Jun 2014 #38

You do know that Svoboda and Right Sector polled a total of 2% in the recent elections, right? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #36

Their power is not in the numbers of voters they can turn out . . . another_liberal Jun 2014 #39

They have no political clout. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #69

Amazing how they got all those executive positions in the government newthinking Jun 2014 #44

Right Sector has no positions. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #48

Come on TC, I have posted the list of Neo-Nazis in the executive in several replys -again newthinking Jun 2014 #49

And I've already rebutted most of your claims to the same cut and paste post. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #52

Principal trading partner is Russia. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #4

Russia has no future? Demeter Jun 2014 #6

You got it. The Candy Man ballyhoo Jun 2014 #8

The EU is screwed up because of the euro. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #12

A primitive supply region. It has no future.............. dipsydoodle Jun 2014 #15

Worry about the ruble. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #19

Wishful thinking? Or listening to too many pundits? newthinking Jun 2014 #28

Russia's very well run fiscally. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #41

The Eurozone may not last but, unless the far right has its way, the EU will not die. pampango Jun 2014 #13

Talk to Greece Demeter Jun 2014 #14

Talk to the far right. AFAIK, they are the only ones trying to break up the EU. pampango Jun 2014 #18

Full list of such agreements here dipsydoodle Jun 2014 #16

I disagree. Xolodno Jun 2014 #30

That's a reasonable argument. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #40

I disagree...and you kind of made my point for me. Xolodno Jun 2014 #50

We'll see. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2014 #51

Meanwhile Russia shits the bed diplomatically, as per usual Bosonic Jun 2014 #5

"Coup!" "Neo-Nazi!" Rinse! Repeat!....oh so typical. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #17

I believe the children are our future.... Billy Budd Jun 2014 #7

Poroshenko: Rada won't ratify Association Agreement with EU in current session dipsydoodle Jun 2014 #9

We don't know how this will play out. But no mistake, this is what the majority of Ukrainians wanted Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #20

Reality is Maidan was a minority newthinking Jun 2014 #31

Once again, you're wrong. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #34

Where you lose perspective is when you lump people's views there into only two possible choices newthinking Jun 2014 #42

You ignore the state of Ukrainian opinion in 2014. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #53

Also some are using a false representation of Ukraine : fireflysky46 Jun 2014 #46

What does this represent? newthinking Jun 2014 #65

Again, given the cut and paste posting, my restated response. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #67

Yes dipsydoodle Jun 2014 #35

The momentum was also built by a paid core. Several Oligarchs were paying people to live on newthinking Jun 2014 #43

It's really, really hard to claim that hundreds of thousands were paid off. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #57

No, but the core who kept the momentum going were paid newthinking Jun 2014 #58

Exactly who was the "core" that kept the momentum going? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #59

Well, except that public opinion polls do show the majority supported their positions. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #54

I have said again and again that because they agreed with some positions newthinking Jun 2014 #60

But my point was that the majority of Ukrainians wanted to move towards Europe... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #61

You make such definitive statements about all ukrainains, yet newthinking Jun 2014 #62

I have plenty of family in the country. I hear their input all the time. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #63

Your family obviously tends toward the west, you are evidence newthinking Jun 2014 #64

My family does come from the west of the country. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #66

I do agree that much of the country was interested in the EU newthinking Jun 2014 #68

If it's all about what happened in Kiev, then why can't you tell me what you think happened in Kiev? Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #70

I don't have time to go back and point by point the list, but it is accurate newthinking Jun 2014 #71

If you are good at finding things, then you can presumably tell me how there was a coup. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2014 #72

yes its really a �civilizational choice�. nt fireflysky46 Jun 2014 #45

Good news here's all the EU and Ukraine policies from 1998- present Sunlei Jun 2014 #33

! DeSwiss Jun 2014 #47

lol love that cartoon! Ukraine may someday be a full EU member, if they get rid of the cooties! Sunlei Jun 2014 #55