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In reply to the discussion: Civilian killed in Ukraine shelling despite truce [View all]Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)34. Seems to be at least one side not abiding by agreements
On Aug. 29, Vladimir Putin called on rebels to open a humanitarian corridor for trapped Ukrainian fighters to leave Ilovaisk alive. Dnipro Battalion commander Yury Bereza, who suffered shrapnel wounds in Ilovaisk and spent three days walking through the fields to escape, said he negotiated with Russian commanders to let them out in exchange for releasing Russian prisoners. But the corridor would turn out to be another trap.
Lyudmila Kalinina, one of the Donbass Battalion's five women volunteers, was one of the fighters to who made it out. Speaking from her hospital bed, where she was being treated for shrapnel wounds, she said she was driving a truck full of soldiers out of Ilovaisk when her convoy suddenly came under artillery fire. The volunteers ran for cover but orders came in over the radio demanding they return to their vehicles. After a lull, the convoy began moving again, only to come under even heavier shelling.
Kalinina said she saw a fiery streak fly into the vehicle in front of her before it exploded.
Kalinina said she saw a fiery streak fly into the vehicle in front of her before it exploded. The fighters ditched vehicles in the corn field and ran into a village. As machine-gun and sniper fire tore into them, they took shelter in local houses and started to shoot back.
The volunteers were out collecting their dead and injured when shrapnel struck Kalinina in her forehead. "I heard a tank shot, and I don't remember anything after that" until waking up that night in the basement of one of the homes, she said.
Lyudmila Kalinina, one of the Donbass Battalion's five women volunteers, was one of the fighters to who made it out. Speaking from her hospital bed, where she was being treated for shrapnel wounds, she said she was driving a truck full of soldiers out of Ilovaisk when her convoy suddenly came under artillery fire. The volunteers ran for cover but orders came in over the radio demanding they return to their vehicles. After a lull, the convoy began moving again, only to come under even heavier shelling.
Kalinina said she saw a fiery streak fly into the vehicle in front of her before it exploded.
Kalinina said she saw a fiery streak fly into the vehicle in front of her before it exploded. The fighters ditched vehicles in the corn field and ran into a village. As machine-gun and sniper fire tore into them, they took shelter in local houses and started to shoot back.
The volunteers were out collecting their dead and injured when shrapnel struck Kalinina in her forehead. "I heard a tank shot, and I don't remember anything after that" until waking up that night in the basement of one of the homes, she said.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/09/06/anatomy_of_a_bloodbath_ukraine_volunteer_battalions_ilovaisk_donetsk
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Considering the Ukraine military batalians there are Neo-Nazi's it is hard to be certain who may be
newthinking
Sep 2014
#30
I've seen reports the pro-Kiev fighters trapped at the Donetsk airport are mercenaries.
another_liberal
Sep 2014
#3
As long as Kiev removes its troops and militias from Separatist territory . . .
another_liberal
Sep 2014
#13
Do you not realize what gaining "Special Status" implies in this context?
another_liberal
Sep 2014
#20
Despite the rhetoric all along special status would have been accepted from the beginning
newthinking
Sep 2014
#36
Notice it says "Ukrainian Territory". That means Donbass *and* the rest of Ukraine
newthinking
Sep 2014
#33
You are way off (and not being rational) here trying to forcast how this will play out
newthinking
Sep 2014
#39
Yes, the peace agreement allows for the continued occupation of Separatist territory by Ukrainian
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2014
#32
Poroshenko and his fascists finally agreed to a ceasefire because they were winning, right?
another_liberal
Sep 2014
#47
Calm down. This will take some time and it is not a surrender. All parties will have to act
newthinking
Sep 2014
#41
What in my post was either not 'calm', or lacking in 'common sense'?
muriel_volestrangler
Sep 2014
#43
Sorry, I think I did reply to the wrong post. Yours was a calm rational response
newthinking
Sep 2014
#45
Separatists shelling the airport from inside the city with Grads after the cease fire
Duckhunter935
Sep 2014
#44
Hence "the pro-Kiev fighters trapped at the Donetsk airport are mercenaries."...
OilemFirchen
Sep 2014
#29
Kiev does have a lot of mercanaries fighting. And there were 300 Polish and Georgian Mercs holding
newthinking
Sep 2014
#48