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Duckhunter935

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34. Seems to be at least one side not abiding by agreements
Sun Sep 7, 2014, 01:20 PM
Sep 2014
On Aug. 29, Vladimir Putin called on rebels to open a humanitarian corridor for trapped Ukrainian fighters to leave Ilovaisk alive. Dnipro Battalion commander Yury Bereza, who suffered shrapnel wounds in Ilovaisk and spent three days walking through the fields to escape, said he negotiated with Russian commanders to let them out in exchange for releasing Russian prisoners. But the corridor would turn out to be another trap.

Lyudmila Kalinina, one of the Donbass Battalion's five women volunteers, was one of the fighters to who made it out. Speaking from her hospital bed, where she was being treated for shrapnel wounds, she said she was driving a truck full of soldiers out of Ilovaisk when her convoy suddenly came under artillery fire. The volunteers ran for cover but orders came in over the radio demanding they return to their vehicles. After a lull, the convoy began moving again, only to come under even heavier shelling.

Kalinina said she saw a fiery streak fly into the vehicle in front of her before it exploded.

Kalinina said she saw a fiery streak fly into the vehicle in front of her before it exploded. The fighters ditched vehicles in the corn field and ran into a village. As machine-gun and sniper fire tore into them, they took shelter in local houses and started to shoot back.

The volunteers were out collecting their dead and injured when shrapnel struck Kalinina in her forehead. "I heard a tank shot, and I don't remember anything after that" until waking up that night in the basement of one of the homes, she said.


http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2014/09/06/anatomy_of_a_bloodbath_ukraine_volunteer_battalions_ilovaisk_donetsk

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Looks like the rebels are just like Hamas. Cant keep to a truce 7962 Sep 2014 #1
They seem to be attacking Ukrainian positions at night now Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #2
Considering the Ukraine military batalians there are Neo-Nazi's it is hard to be certain who may be newthinking Sep 2014 #30
Seems to be at least one side not abiding by agreements Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #34
I've seen reports the pro-Kiev fighters trapped at the Donetsk airport are mercenaries. another_liberal Sep 2014 #3
I saw a report that described Bigfoot. Igel Sep 2014 #4
No one seemed to believe reports of a Separatist offensive either . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #7
quite easy for a turn around Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #11
Some people say that . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #24
I've been assigned the status of "nobody"? Igel Sep 2014 #27
The Svoboda censored Ukrainian news as your source? newthinking Sep 2014 #31
do you have a link to the Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #5
Sure thing . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #8
well thats not it, but an RT story Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #9
As long as Kiev removes its troops and militias from Separatist territory . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #13
except that is not what the agreement says Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #16
Do you not realize what gaining "Special Status" implies in this context? another_liberal Sep 2014 #20
yes I do Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #22
Despite the rhetoric all along special status would have been accepted from the beginning newthinking Sep 2014 #36
Notice it says "Ukrainian Territory". That means Donbass *and* the rest of Ukraine newthinking Sep 2014 #33
So the illegal Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #37
You are way off (and not being rational) here trying to forcast how this will play out newthinking Sep 2014 #39
found the agreement Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #6
Oh they are most certainly "refusing to leave," and then some . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #10
point 10 of the agreement Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #12
Don't be so impatient . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #15
the first thing should be to stop attacking Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #18
Notice it is *after* elections. newthinking Sep 2014 #38
and I ask again Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #14
In the wording, maybe? another_liberal Sep 2014 #17
please post the point in the agreement Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #19
I don't think you are serious . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #21
I just read the agreement Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #23
Yes, the peace agreement allows for the continued occupation of Separatist territory by Ukrainian muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #32
Your opinion is welcome . . . another_liberal Sep 2014 #35
That's OK, I'm a native English speaker muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #40
Poroshenko and his fascists finally agreed to a ceasefire because they were winning, right? another_liberal Sep 2014 #47
Calm down. This will take some time and it is not a surrender. All parties will have to act newthinking Sep 2014 #41
What in my post was either not 'calm', or lacking in 'common sense'? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #43
Sorry, I think I did reply to the wrong post. Yours was a calm rational response newthinking Sep 2014 #45
Separatists shelling the airport from inside the city with Grads after the cease fire Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #44
I see something we agree on! Miracles never cease ;) newthinking Sep 2014 #46
Are you suggesting... OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #25
crickets nt Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #26
That's been the assertion from the Russian/pro-Russian side. Igel Sep 2014 #28
Hence "the pro-Kiev fighters trapped at the Donetsk airport are mercenaries."... OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #29
Kiev does have a lot of mercanaries fighting. And there were 300 Polish and Georgian Mercs holding newthinking Sep 2014 #48
Bullshit. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #50
This is all premature speculating. That item is #10 and after elections newthinking Sep 2014 #42
The line items in the agreement are not dependent on one another. OilemFirchen Sep 2014 #49
since item 12 Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #51
Ukraine might as well cede those territories geek tragedy Sep 2014 #52
Very possible Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #53
No, but they have time to harden their defenses there. geek tragedy Sep 2014 #54
Look at the map and see where these are Duckhunter935 Sep 2014 #55
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