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Sun Sep 14, 2014, 02:40 PM

Sep 2014

Good point. But still - it seems possible that his behavior/comments may have been coerced.

Who knows?

Clearly, I am not as up on this story as I should be.

I don't fully have a handle on what this guy is all about.

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US man in North Korea given 6 years of hard labor [View all] Omaha Steve Sep 2014 OP

Guess he got what he asked for Zorro Sep 2014 #1

I have found that the best way madville Sep 2014 #2

Yep. Brigid Sep 2014 #22

One of them, I don't recall which... yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #3

A state has a right to restrict religious actions within its bondaries if it chooses to do so. India jwirr Sep 2014 #6

Exactly yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #7

Morally it does not. Religious persecution is oppression. chrisa Sep 2014 #8

Well what you are missing is that this did not happen in the USA where we do have the right to jwirr Sep 2014 #10

Will you apply that logic to how women are treated in some countries? Township75 Sep 2014 #11

Well, no, we DON'T have the right to override your specific examples. I mean, what? We should invade WinkyDink Sep 2014 #18

Women are treated badly in a lot of countries. We do little about it and I seriously doubt it would jwirr Sep 2014 #23

I said "morally" not "legally." chrisa Sep 2014 #24

Southern Baptists have missionaries in India. Lars39 Sep 2014 #37

They can send healthcare workers. And that is the means that most churches are now. jwirr Sep 2014 #51

Nope, these are flat out missionaries. Lars39 Sep 2014 #53

Like the guy in North Korea. jwirr Sep 2014 #54

Yes. Lars39 Sep 2014 #55

That is true. The old missions made sure that they kept their links going. That is probably why jwirr Sep 2014 #56

india is full of missionaries, Mother Teresa being one of the most well known examples JI7 Sep 2014 #41

Their group was still there and they are there as healthcare workers. jwirr Sep 2014 #52

no. most of them are uneducated JI7 Sep 2014 #58

North Korea is authoritarian? Say it isn't so! WinkyDink Sep 2014 #16

I am not arguing that they have no moral right. He is not being tried and imprisoned because of a jwirr Sep 2014 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author Hoppy Sep 2014 #26

Yeah, well wait'ill my Jeezuz gets hold of them heathen bastids. They gonna be sorry. Hoppy Sep 2014 #27

Of the three, this is the only one who DIDN'T get picked up for Bible-related charges jmowreader Sep 2014 #33

You said the first and the third yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #35

Sorry...Jeffrey Fowle is the third jmowreader Sep 2014 #36

Wonder if he'll survive. toby jo Sep 2014 #4

The headline should be: Ill-Advised Trip to North Korea Ends as Expected EEO Sep 2014 #5

Hard to find sympathy for him since it's apparently what he wanted. Drunken Irishman Sep 2014 #9

Why are you saying this is what he wanted? oberliner Sep 2014 #12

Because it's in the OP's post? WinkyDink Sep 2014 #15

Only if you believe the North Korean court spokesperson oberliner Sep 2014 #21

"The Associated Press was allowed to attend the trial." He waived his right to a lawyer. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #47

We probably shouldn't trust the NK gov to read a weather report... Orsino Sep 2014 #50

Neither did he....with his wild ambition. Historic NY Sep 2014 #17

"The court said..." oberliner Sep 2014 #20

The Associated Press was allowed to attend the trial. Historic NY Sep 2014 #28

True oberliner Sep 2014 #31

It is rather odd that he waived his right to an attorney. JimDandy Sep 2014 #29

You're going to get a fair trial, followed by a proper hanging. VScott Sep 2014 #30

Was he forced to go to NK? Do you really think the NKoreans fabricated this convoluted story? WinkyDink Sep 2014 #48

One other account was that his goal was actually to be able to karynnj Sep 2014 #19

This! davidpdx Sep 2014 #43

The trip was worth it rpannier Sep 2014 #44

I had really hoped to go davidpdx Sep 2014 #46

He should have wished for a pony TheCowsCameHome Sep 2014 #13

That boy ain't right. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #14

Miller probably grew up on stories . . . Brigid Sep 2014 #25

Harsh years for breaking their 'rules'.He lost his 20s, bet he goes home soon as he gets out. Sunlei Sep 2014 #32

Either that, or the guards will get bored with kicking the shit out of him and ask he be deported jmowreader Sep 2014 #34

He was given 6 years but they may keep him longer if they mackerel Sep 2014 #38

uh...Is that kid on drugs? Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #39

more likely he's mentally ill. cali Sep 2014 #40

he seems like a fool who wanted to expose something but has no knowledge JI7 Sep 2014 #42

They'll find some reason to kick the guy out of the country within a year rpannier Sep 2014 #45

people like this iandhr Sep 2014 #49