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IthinkThereforeIAM

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35. I believe that is exactly why the DA is convening the grand jury...
Wed Sep 17, 2014, 04:59 AM
Sep 2014

Last edited Wed Sep 17, 2014, 05:45 AM - Edit history (1)

... on this incident. It is hard for the uninitiated (to sprint car and dirt track racing) to understand what they see in the somewhat dark and long shot video(s) available. The #45 car (the driver is a former track champion at this particular track, so not a novice) nearly hit Mr. Ward, too.

Getting back to my first sentence, sprint cars are a mystery to most people who have not attended more than a few sprint car races and visited the pits afterwards. As has been mentioned, there is no transmission, only an in/out option. The fact that the cars suspensions are set up with camber, stagger and weight shifting (ie... no two corners of the sprint car will have the same spring rates in the torsion bars or coil over springs, and shock rebound rates). Hence, ideally you want the sprint car to go through the corners with minimal steering effort = they turn themselves. It is a fight between man and machine to get it to go straight where the track is straight, although power steering has helped many (insider joke) to do that.

Here is a pretty good explanation of the mechanics of sprint cars. Note: The right wing panel hanging down and partially blocking view to the right. This is from 1994 or so, and the wing panels are larger and more square now. http://www.chucko.com/racing/the-cars.html


So, that being said and generally known in the die hard sprint racing crowd but not so much elsewhere, the grand jury will allow these physical traits of sprint cars to be better explained. The information in full will be there (hopefully) and an accurate assessment by those concerned and those curious enough at this point can be made.

It is tragic when any life is lost. Especially when the life is such a young and full of vitality one, such as in this case. I have seen drivers killed racing these cars. One with a birds eye view from the press box as the accident occurred on the front straight of a 3/8's mile track (small, up close and personal) and it changed me, too.

As to, "Maybe sprint cars need to be modified from their current form...", Humpy Wheeler of NASCAR promoter fame made such a suggestion once when NASCAR first took interest in putting in small dirt tracks at their major venues, such as Charlotte. Stating that sprint cars/open wheel cars need fenders on them so as to have more space to put advertising. The sprint car fans nearly revolted, and Humpy was never allowed to come close to a sprint car again. Just letting you know that changing the design concept of sprint cars is a no go. Yes, they are dangerous, and at times unpredictable (if a suspension part breaks when the car is at or near full throttle, the flips and spins are what make the weekly highlights films on the racing shows), that is why all that enter the pits at race time are required to sign an insurance waiver or contract and vow to follow the rules as stated at the pit/drivers meeting and as outlined on the form(s).

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Impossible to convict him FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #1
Unless there's something damning in some radio communications. Mika Sep 2014 #2
Anyone who watches racing knows those type of things are said all the time and it doesn't mean diabeticman Sep 2014 #11
Also, the driver who got killed was dressed in black jmowreader Sep 2014 #6
Whether or not he accelerated. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #15
What about the Yellow Flag bahrbearian Sep 2014 #36
except for the fact the asshole goosed the gas to hit him with the ass end of his car snooper2 Sep 2014 #40
This IS B.S. there was no way Stewart could have stopped this. The rookie driver killed himself. diabeticman Sep 2014 #3
I wont argue over the ability to stop thats just basic physics but as Mika cstanleytech Sep 2014 #5
The "something else" is the DA not wanting former9thward Sep 2014 #10
Unless you are now clairvoyant its a bit premature to make that claim cstanleytech Sep 2014 #14
This is a discussion board. former9thward Sep 2014 #17
"I gave an educated opinion." Well you are half right. cstanleytech Sep 2014 #19
Oh really? former9thward Sep 2014 #44
Yes, really as all you gave was opinion at that time. cstanleytech Sep 2014 #46
So which half was I wrong on? former9thward Sep 2014 #47
The absurd one claiming cstanleytech Sep 2014 #48
Yellow Flag ? bahrbearian Sep 2014 #37
Good, this needs to be cleared up. Stewart gunning his engine and sliding his car A Simple Game Sep 2014 #4
I agree.... Sadly there's plenty of blame to go around groundloop Sep 2014 #12
There is a misconception about the "gunning" part. Lochloosa Sep 2014 #13
"In a race they are going sideways more than straight ." "Sideways," or at an angle? WinkyDink Sep 2014 #16
Sideways. Angle. I think you get my "drift". Lochloosa Sep 2014 #27
I'll wait for the trial video. WinkyDink Sep 2014 #39
I watched the videos many times, hard to miss it was a local story for me. A Simple Game Sep 2014 #18
That's the way I saw it too groundloop Sep 2014 #20
I don't think Stewart hit him intentionally but he did appear A Simple Game Sep 2014 #21
It will be interesting to hear what if any evidence the DA has thats for sure. nt cstanleytech Sep 2014 #22
I've watched the video many times, too, rocktivity Sep 2014 #29
Why gun before coasting to go slow? tabasco Sep 2014 #24
You have to keep pace with the other cars around you to maintain your position on the track. Lochloosa Sep 2014 #26
My husband races and says the exact same thing. FourScore Sep 2014 #25
I agree. You are not supposed to even get out of a wrecked car unless it's burning Lochloosa Sep 2014 #28
That is the first thing they tell drivers... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2014 #32
Post removed Post removed Sep 2014 #7
Hmmm, that doesn't sound like a DU comment. BillZBubb Sep 2014 #8
Classy n/t tazkcmo Sep 2014 #9
Good. Hitting someone fatally while under a yellow caution flag is inexcusable. Coventina Sep 2014 #23
Ward Should Have Never Been Out Of His Car, Period. Corey_Baker08 Sep 2014 #30
A yellow flag on a race course means that hazardous conditions are present and you (the driver) are Coventina Sep 2014 #31
That is as slow as a sprint car can go under yellow... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2014 #33
If it were that open and shut, why is it going to a grand jury? Coventina Sep 2014 #34
I believe that is exactly why the DA is convening the grand jury... IthinkThereforeIAM Sep 2014 #35
Thank you very much for this long, informative post. Coventina Sep 2014 #41
I Certainly Don't Agree With Your View That Tony Stewart Intentionally Killed This Man... Corey_Baker08 Sep 2014 #42
So in your view, being in one's prime, earning millions of dollars, and having a beautiful family Coventina Sep 2014 #43
I'm not an expert.. sendero Sep 2014 #38
Tony Stewart not charged by grand jury in death of Kevin Ward Jr. former9thward Sep 2014 #45
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