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Plucketeer

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3. Once again

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 01:13 PM

Sep 2014

Dead is dead. Would we even have heard of this if he'd simply shot them - instead of beheading one to death? No matter WHAT means of killing he used - the one victim is dead. No more or less dead than any other victim or casualty of war. Heh - THOUSANDS of innocents shot dead in THIS COUNTRY every week. Not one PEEP of outrage or revulsion about that.

The misfit that did this is going to be removed from society for good - as he should be. But his act - or the method of it - needs to be viewed with perspective. We citizens nonchalantly accept unjust gunshot deaths as easily as inhaling and exhaling.

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This certainly ratchets up things. CentralMass Sep 2014 #1

Here We Go billhicks76 Sep 2014 #30

People have psychotic breaks every day - no need to resort to conspiracy theory to explain this Yo_Mama Sep 2014 #64

PTSD Fort Hood Attendee Right? billhicks76 Sep 2014 #99

If you are referring to the murdering fanatic Nidal Hasan Yo_Mama Sep 2014 #101

White House Lawn Guy billhicks76 Sep 2014 #106

... cosmicone Sep 2014 #2

Nolen had recently converted to Islam and he had been trying to convert coworkers to Islam seveneyes Sep 2014 #4

Nope, not one thing get the red out Sep 2014 #12

What is your point? philosslayer Sep 2014 #13

That is false. former9thward Sep 2014 #16

Fortunately, you don't get to define it philosslayer Sep 2014 #18

Fortunately, we do get to define it. GGJohn Sep 2014 #23

you have NO idea why the workplace violence took place in Oklahoma today philosslayer Sep 2014 #24

And your ready to label it as work place violence. GGJohn Sep 2014 #25

What else would you call it? philosslayer Sep 2014 #26

I already expressed what I define it as. GGJohn Sep 2014 #28

The definition of terrorism is as follows: philosslayer Sep 2014 #33

There may very well have been a political aim. GGJohn Sep 2014 #35

The FBI determined that the shooting at Ft. Hood was NOT terrorism. philosslayer Sep 2014 #37

Anti Muslim? Is that all you have? GGJohn Sep 2014 #41

Yes, but everybody who watches Faux Nooze will be terrorized endlessly by this story. corkhead Sep 2014 #58

That definition is far from complete Bonx Sep 2014 #48

Yet another recruiting drive by the Religion ot Peace? Flatulo Sep 2014 #74

And your average resident in Oklahoma would recognize the language Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #36

Good point philosslayer Sep 2014 #38

Oooooh, now the bigot label? GGJohn Sep 2014 #43

If he were shouting Allah Akbar, that's pretty definitive and recognizable. GGJohn Sep 2014 #42

Since I grew up two states north of there, Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #53

He was apparently a Christian Gore1FL Sep 2014 #66

You don't have to be fluent in a language to recognize its usage. Flatulo Sep 2014 #75

Islam doesn't Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #88

Um, he'd recently been fired. Crash2Parties Sep 2014 #68

It was definitely work place violence and it may meet the definition of terrorism tularetom Sep 2014 #76

I have to agree with you. GGJohn Sep 2014 #85

It was "organised" in this respect Bragi Sep 2014 #100

The govt also doesn't include people who gave up on a job as unemployed joeglow3 Sep 2014 #86

Dude, it ain't so JUST because the gubmint says so. Adrahil Sep 2014 #105

Bullshit. Hasan was a terrorist carrying out a mission he spoke of. 7962 Sep 2014 #70

No more and no less to see than when Scott Roeder acting wholly on his Christian faith... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #50

Statistical evidence says otherwise seveneyes Sep 2014 #54

Good point 7962 Sep 2014 #73

he's a sick man who was a muslim. That is what should be said about this. roguevalley Sep 2014 #19

I doubt he would have beheaded someone cosmicone Sep 2014 #22

If he had been a Scientologist christx30 Sep 2014 #31

Sorry to laugh about such a tragedy mimi85 Sep 2014 #46

I doubt that he would have beheaded anyone without a sick mind making it plausible and acceptable. roguevalley Sep 2014 #97

Time to round up all the Muslims and sew crescent moon patches on their lapels! tenderfoot Sep 2014 #44

I second that, hell, let's do what the Nazi's did the the jewish people, tattoo's. GGJohn Sep 2014 #45

I see the Third Way is out in force this evening to make political hay. blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #78

Once again Plucketeer Sep 2014 #3

Right, except there are a few elements to the story that's going to give it legs Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #7

The only thing missing is the beheading being caught on video. nt Eugene Sep 2014 #39

I'd guess that there's a 50-50 chance that there is a vid Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #49

Wanna bet he'd beheaded even if it hadn't been a big deal on YouTube and other venues of late? Plucketeer Sep 2014 #60

We would get the red out Sep 2014 #11

Oh - we may well have heard about it Plucketeer Sep 2014 #62

We heard about it when it was "active shooter at food distribution center in Moore". greyl Sep 2014 #14

OK, that's one! nt Plucketeer Sep 2014 #57

So you don't mind "grisly." candelista Sep 2014 #15

And "clean" means less to you? Plucketeer Sep 2014 #59

"beheading one to death" say it all about you. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #29

Does that mean mimi85 Sep 2014 #47

Really? Plucketeer Sep 2014 #63

Beheading is usually understood to imply the "to death" part of your above construction. n/t xocet Sep 2014 #56

"Not one PEEP of outrage or revulsion about that" NYC Liberal Sep 2014 #61

Does he "fit" into society? Plucketeer Sep 2014 #65

Waiting for the call for air strikes in Oklahoma Hulk Sep 2014 #5

Nolen has a long history of violence - ISIL does nothing more than bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #6

Let's bomb the country he lives in. FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #8

ISIL has put out a call... Archae Sep 2014 #9

The wingnuts are already on this, like flies on sh*t! ColesCountyDem Sep 2014 #10

ABC's story also had people freaking out that ISIS is here nt maryellen99 Sep 2014 #17

They should have just ignored him, and he would have stopped. FrodosPet Sep 2014 #20

Agree! get the red out Sep 2014 #32

Domestic beheader 1, ISIS 0. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #21

Damn Aerows Sep 2014 #27

A wingnut's worst nightmare Dopers_Greed Sep 2014 #34

Black and Christian Gore1FL Sep 2014 #67

He was a convert to Islam. Read the whole story. You cant just wipe away tattoos 7962 Sep 2014 #71

According to my link Gore1FL Sep 2014 #89

As I said, plenty of converts with tattoos. This guy was a recent convert. 7962 Sep 2014 #91

How was I defending him? Gore1FL Sep 2014 #94

Of course he was seveneyes Sep 2014 #104

He started off as a misguided Christian and ended up as a misguided Muslim. Gore1FL Sep 2014 #107

I keep saying the news hype can trigger an episode with the borderline.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #40

Didn't one of the diaries at Jamestown talk about a guy beheading his wife, eating her? Kept jtuck004 Sep 2014 #51

Were these terrible things done Elmergantry Sep 2014 #83

Shhhhh. Mustn't call out radical Islam in any way. nt Flatulo Sep 2014 #96

Another tragedy for Moore after the F5 tornado last year. n/t OnlinePoker Sep 2014 #52

And how many people are killed by gun violence - every day? LongTomH Sep 2014 #55

Nothing more than a criminal murdering and assaulting weaker people. Muslim my ass. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2014 #69

Inspired by his interpreation of his "faith" Elmergantry Sep 2014 #79

Damn convenient. Gets fired and suddenly finds that his religion requires him to take retribution jtuck004 Sep 2014 #98

"No True Scotsman" eh? n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #90

People have already been killing "for jihad" in the US. 7962 Sep 2014 #72

I was having my car worked on and Faux "News" was blaring in the waiting room... 47of74 Sep 2014 #77

Fact is there is a vioent interpretation of Islam Elmergantry Sep 2014 #80

uh huh JanMichael Sep 2014 #81

I am not aware of any Elmergantry Sep 2014 #82

+1 n/t cosmicone Sep 2014 #84

Or destroying ancient shrines and temples. Throd Sep 2014 #87

Too many conveniently forget that point. Because they choose to. 7962 Sep 2014 #92

Have you checked the scorecard lately? Flatulo Sep 2014 #95

"Oh, no, ISIS is beheading us here. We need to have a war!" Fox News at 11. nt valerief Sep 2014 #93

ooooooooooga booooooooga ? Rhinodawg Sep 2014 #102

This is one time I wish he had had a gun. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2014 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author Mamma Sep 2014 #108

So how does Islam work? Calista241 Sep 2014 #109