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former9thward

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16. That is false.

Fri Sep 26, 2014, 02:10 PM

Sep 2014

Hasan made clear he was killing for Islam and he was a follower of jihad. It was not remotely "workplace violence". It was classic terrorism.

Hasan was investigated by the FBI after intelligence agencies intercepted at least 18 e-mails between him and Anwar al-Awlaki between December 2008 and June 2009. al-Awlaki was a major influence on radical English-speaking jihadis internationally.

In one of the e-mails, Hasan wrote al-Awlaki: "I can't wait to join you" in the afterlife. Hasan also asked al-Awlaki when jihad is appropriate, and whether it is permissible if innocents are killed in a suicide attack.

In the months before the shooting, Hasan increased his contacts with al-Awlaki to discuss how to transfer funds abroad without coming to the attention of law authorities.

In the Fort Hood shooting Hasan reportedly shouted "Allahu Akbar!"

No, not workplace violence...

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This certainly ratchets up things. CentralMass Sep 2014 #1

Here We Go billhicks76 Sep 2014 #30

People have psychotic breaks every day - no need to resort to conspiracy theory to explain this Yo_Mama Sep 2014 #64

PTSD Fort Hood Attendee Right? billhicks76 Sep 2014 #99

If you are referring to the murdering fanatic Nidal Hasan Yo_Mama Sep 2014 #101

White House Lawn Guy billhicks76 Sep 2014 #106

... cosmicone Sep 2014 #2

Nolen had recently converted to Islam and he had been trying to convert coworkers to Islam seveneyes Sep 2014 #4

Nope, not one thing get the red out Sep 2014 #12

What is your point? philosslayer Sep 2014 #13

That is false. former9thward Sep 2014 #16

Fortunately, you don't get to define it philosslayer Sep 2014 #18

Fortunately, we do get to define it. GGJohn Sep 2014 #23

you have NO idea why the workplace violence took place in Oklahoma today philosslayer Sep 2014 #24

And your ready to label it as work place violence. GGJohn Sep 2014 #25

What else would you call it? philosslayer Sep 2014 #26

I already expressed what I define it as. GGJohn Sep 2014 #28

The definition of terrorism is as follows: philosslayer Sep 2014 #33

There may very well have been a political aim. GGJohn Sep 2014 #35

The FBI determined that the shooting at Ft. Hood was NOT terrorism. philosslayer Sep 2014 #37

Anti Muslim? Is that all you have? GGJohn Sep 2014 #41

Yes, but everybody who watches Faux Nooze will be terrorized endlessly by this story. corkhead Sep 2014 #58

That definition is far from complete Bonx Sep 2014 #48

Yet another recruiting drive by the Religion ot Peace? Flatulo Sep 2014 #74

And your average resident in Oklahoma would recognize the language Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #36

Good point philosslayer Sep 2014 #38

Oooooh, now the bigot label? GGJohn Sep 2014 #43

If he were shouting Allah Akbar, that's pretty definitive and recognizable. GGJohn Sep 2014 #42

Since I grew up two states north of there, Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #53

He was apparently a Christian Gore1FL Sep 2014 #66

You don't have to be fluent in a language to recognize its usage. Flatulo Sep 2014 #75

Islam doesn't Ms. Toad Sep 2014 #88

Um, he'd recently been fired. Crash2Parties Sep 2014 #68

It was definitely work place violence and it may meet the definition of terrorism tularetom Sep 2014 #76

I have to agree with you. GGJohn Sep 2014 #85

It was "organised" in this respect Bragi Sep 2014 #100

The govt also doesn't include people who gave up on a job as unemployed joeglow3 Sep 2014 #86

Dude, it ain't so JUST because the gubmint says so. Adrahil Sep 2014 #105

Bullshit. Hasan was a terrorist carrying out a mission he spoke of. 7962 Sep 2014 #70

No more and no less to see than when Scott Roeder acting wholly on his Christian faith... LanternWaste Sep 2014 #50

Statistical evidence says otherwise seveneyes Sep 2014 #54

Good point 7962 Sep 2014 #73

he's a sick man who was a muslim. That is what should be said about this. roguevalley Sep 2014 #19

I doubt he would have beheaded someone cosmicone Sep 2014 #22

If he had been a Scientologist christx30 Sep 2014 #31

Sorry to laugh about such a tragedy mimi85 Sep 2014 #46

I doubt that he would have beheaded anyone without a sick mind making it plausible and acceptable. roguevalley Sep 2014 #97

Time to round up all the Muslims and sew crescent moon patches on their lapels! tenderfoot Sep 2014 #44

I second that, hell, let's do what the Nazi's did the the jewish people, tattoo's. GGJohn Sep 2014 #45

I see the Third Way is out in force this evening to make political hay. blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #78

Once again Plucketeer Sep 2014 #3

Right, except there are a few elements to the story that's going to give it legs Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #7

The only thing missing is the beheading being caught on video. nt Eugene Sep 2014 #39

I'd guess that there's a 50-50 chance that there is a vid Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #49

Wanna bet he'd beheaded even if it hadn't been a big deal on YouTube and other venues of late? Plucketeer Sep 2014 #60

We would get the red out Sep 2014 #11

Oh - we may well have heard about it Plucketeer Sep 2014 #62

We heard about it when it was "active shooter at food distribution center in Moore". greyl Sep 2014 #14

OK, that's one! nt Plucketeer Sep 2014 #57

So you don't mind "grisly." candelista Sep 2014 #15

And "clean" means less to you? Plucketeer Sep 2014 #59

"beheading one to death" say it all about you. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #29

Does that mean mimi85 Sep 2014 #47

Really? Plucketeer Sep 2014 #63

Beheading is usually understood to imply the "to death" part of your above construction. n/t xocet Sep 2014 #56

"Not one PEEP of outrage or revulsion about that" NYC Liberal Sep 2014 #61

Does he "fit" into society? Plucketeer Sep 2014 #65

Waiting for the call for air strikes in Oklahoma Hulk Sep 2014 #5

Nolen has a long history of violence - ISIL does nothing more than bullwinkle428 Sep 2014 #6

Let's bomb the country he lives in. FiveGoodMen Sep 2014 #8

ISIL has put out a call... Archae Sep 2014 #9

The wingnuts are already on this, like flies on sh*t! ColesCountyDem Sep 2014 #10

ABC's story also had people freaking out that ISIS is here nt maryellen99 Sep 2014 #17

They should have just ignored him, and he would have stopped. FrodosPet Sep 2014 #20

Agree! get the red out Sep 2014 #32

Domestic beheader 1, ISIS 0. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #21

Damn Aerows Sep 2014 #27

A wingnut's worst nightmare Dopers_Greed Sep 2014 #34

Black and Christian Gore1FL Sep 2014 #67

He was a convert to Islam. Read the whole story. You cant just wipe away tattoos 7962 Sep 2014 #71

According to my link Gore1FL Sep 2014 #89

As I said, plenty of converts with tattoos. This guy was a recent convert. 7962 Sep 2014 #91

How was I defending him? Gore1FL Sep 2014 #94

Of course he was seveneyes Sep 2014 #104

He started off as a misguided Christian and ended up as a misguided Muslim. Gore1FL Sep 2014 #107

I keep saying the news hype can trigger an episode with the borderline.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #40

Didn't one of the diaries at Jamestown talk about a guy beheading his wife, eating her? Kept jtuck004 Sep 2014 #51

Were these terrible things done Elmergantry Sep 2014 #83

Shhhhh. Mustn't call out radical Islam in any way. nt Flatulo Sep 2014 #96

Another tragedy for Moore after the F5 tornado last year. n/t OnlinePoker Sep 2014 #52

And how many people are killed by gun violence - every day? LongTomH Sep 2014 #55

Nothing more than a criminal murdering and assaulting weaker people. Muslim my ass. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2014 #69

Inspired by his interpreation of his "faith" Elmergantry Sep 2014 #79

Damn convenient. Gets fired and suddenly finds that his religion requires him to take retribution jtuck004 Sep 2014 #98

"No True Scotsman" eh? n/m ProudToBeBlueInRhody Sep 2014 #90

People have already been killing "for jihad" in the US. 7962 Sep 2014 #72

I was having my car worked on and Faux "News" was blaring in the waiting room... 47of74 Sep 2014 #77

Fact is there is a vioent interpretation of Islam Elmergantry Sep 2014 #80

uh huh JanMichael Sep 2014 #81

I am not aware of any Elmergantry Sep 2014 #82

+1 n/t cosmicone Sep 2014 #84

Or destroying ancient shrines and temples. Throd Sep 2014 #87

Too many conveniently forget that point. Because they choose to. 7962 Sep 2014 #92

Have you checked the scorecard lately? Flatulo Sep 2014 #95

"Oh, no, ISIS is beheading us here. We need to have a war!" Fox News at 11. nt valerief Sep 2014 #93

ooooooooooga booooooooga ? Rhinodawg Sep 2014 #102

This is one time I wish he had had a gun. leftyladyfrommo Sep 2014 #103

This message was self-deleted by its author Mamma Sep 2014 #108

So how does Islam work? Calista241 Sep 2014 #109