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42. The circumstances of the Myers and Brown shooting appear to be very different.

Wed Oct 15, 2014, 01:05 AM

Oct 2014

The presence of a sandwich does not negate the possession of a firearm, and a sandwich does not leave GSR, no less on the victim' s waistband.

As I stated before, I will await the full investigation. However, a story of a shootout that did not occur would be odd, at best, from a police officer who would know of the extensive forensic evidence that would be left after such an event. The fact that Myers was on bail for a weapons charge, and likely violating his bail conditions, and that any arrest or charge by the officer that evening could result in his incarceration for many years, is certainly a pertinent context when evaluating the situation.

Unfortunately, some believe that accepting evidence that a particular case may not be the result of racism, is actually supporting racism in the system. I and most others will not avoid discussion because of some foolish and shortsighted views.

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Gunpowder residue found on 18-year-old in St. Louis police shooting [View all] philosslayer Oct 2014 OP

It's not a test that takes very long to administer scarystuffyo Oct 2014 #1

Nothing was "put to rest" philosslayer Oct 2014 #2

It proves enough for now. branford Oct 2014 #8

I think you need to re-read the last paragraph of the report. Hoppy Oct 2014 #16

The unsupported allegation of an apparently self-proclaimed "activist" is not evidence. branford Oct 2014 #17

We have no such thing. We have a report in the LA Times of a release from the KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #39

I am not a cop. I am a trial attorney in NYC with no personal or professional connection branford Oct 2014 #48

This LA Times report proves absolutely NOTHING. Zip! As a lawyer, you should KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #51

If true, the report is very important. branford Oct 2014 #59

Actually, it makes the old whore the LA Times look foolish for uncritically printing KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #60

You really want police violence to be ignored, don't you? intaglio Oct 2014 #79

Depends if the "police violence" was justified or improper. branford Oct 2014 #81

They "put the question to rest" in the minds of people like you who already KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #37

So you agree with them that there's no case against Zimmerman GGJohn Oct 2014 #38

Zimmerman? Please do try to keep up. I have no idea whom you KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #41

You did hear about George Zimmerman killing Trayvon Martin GGJohn Oct 2014 #44

At this point, I'm not sure I fully trust even the CRD of the U.S. DoJ. But I still fail to see KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #45

I get the feeling that even if there was video of Myers shooting at the cop GGJohn Oct 2014 #50

Are you a cop? This report in the whore publication the LA Times proves KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #53

Are you fair minded? GGJohn Oct 2014 #56

"Pig lovers" "Whore publication" It seems you're the one who's already made up their mind. branford Oct 2014 #61

I'll bet you believed the LA Times when it reported in 2002 that Iraq had KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #62

We'll just have to bookmark your post for when the feds fail to charge the charge branford Oct 2014 #52

See. You've already decided that this spurious report PROVES that KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #54

Gun powder residue on the inside of the waistband Lurks Often Oct 2014 #3

Or had been armed with a gun that had been fired. LiberalArkie Oct 2014 #4

I merely stated it indicated that Myers was armed, nothing more or less. Lurks Often Oct 2014 #5

No more and no less than it indicates he was shot at close range... LanternWaste Oct 2014 #94

It was the residue found INSIDE of the waistband that strongly indicates he was armed Lurks Often Oct 2014 #95

Since Myers had a pending gun charge KinMd Oct 2014 #6

What if you were on the Jury??? DreamSmoker Oct 2014 #7

The full and official autopsy report should be enlightening. nt branford Oct 2014 #9

I personally want to see what the fingerprint tests come back with on the gun. cstanleytech Oct 2014 #10

I'd like to see who's prints (if any) are on the shells.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #12

The GSR was on Myers hands, shirt and waistbant. branford Oct 2014 #13

Thats enough to make white people feel good about another dead black youth. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #18

Are you suggesting that regardless of the evidence, the shooting was unjustified, branford Oct 2014 #20

Are you suggesting the only way to "eliminate racial disparities in the criminal justice system",... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #23

And you obviously did not read any of my posts . . . branford Oct 2014 #27

Are you sure you're not Ned Flanders? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #84

That's a bit unfair.... Adrahil Oct 2014 #85

Bingo. Trust is the key and they violated that trust. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #89

Well they can always check which hand the prints came from and how they were positioned on the cstanleytech Oct 2014 #14

Ah,...so that explains why the cops were all standing around snickering.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #11

I assume that you have credible evidence of your allegations as it pertains to the Myers shooting? branford Oct 2014 #21

I have credible evidence that the entire police force should be fired for sheer STUPIDITY. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #22

Then post your credible evidence that the entire SLMPD should be fired. GGJohn Oct 2014 #24

I already said.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #25

Again, where is you evidence of the alleged "snickering" after the Myers shooting? branford Oct 2014 #28

Did you watch the live feeds that night? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #31

Do you have any evidence that the cops were snickering at the scene? GGJohn Oct 2014 #29

It's was captured on live feeds. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #32

And you yourself heard this? GGJohn Oct 2014 #35

I was online here and there were links to people on the ground providing live feeds.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #40

Then we were watching far different feeds. GGJohn Oct 2014 #46

I followed the links on this thread... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #87

I'm a little confused here. GGJohn Oct 2014 #92

Both. You have to look by date. Some archived clips are over an hour. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #93

Just my opinion GitRDun Oct 2014 #15

If there was a high definition video with sound, filmed by the Pope and Obama, branford Oct 2014 #19

I suppose a mom saying, "Armed with a sandwich" tends to stick in the mind too. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #26

It would if that were true, GGJohn Oct 2014 #33

Although I empathize with Myers' mother's grief, she is not a witness to the incident. branford Oct 2014 #34

Funny how these shootings produce people franticly denying it's racial too.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #36

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #74

Moms say all kinds of things to defend their kids. Igel Oct 2014 #86

I'm sure. Adrahil Oct 2014 #88

Keep this in mind too... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #90

How many have been shot and over how many years? Red State Rebel Oct 2014 #100

Hell, I've been the FORMAN on several juries myself... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #101

I am sorry you are taking so much heat for a logical opinion Kalidurga Oct 2014 #30

The circumstances of the Myers and Brown shooting appear to be very different. branford Oct 2014 #42

I will wait as well. Kalidurga Oct 2014 #47

According to the locals there was a foot pursuit and he was mistaken for a perp. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #43

Yes I realize that Kalidurga Oct 2014 #49

For the sake of the community the police need to be replaced.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #75

Myers was mistaken by the pig for one of the perps he was pursuing. That's KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #57

The OC Register is worse. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #70

I'd like to say that some readers on DU are merely credulous, giving them the KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #71

Yup, saw it on Knight Ridder back in 2002 prior to the merger.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #73

I live here in St. Louis and I haven't heard that. Red State Rebel Oct 2014 #102

Did you join the protests? I got it from the live feeds of people on the ground. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2014 #103

Fair Warning: the LA Times reported that Iraq had Weapons of Mass Destruction back KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #55

Maybe if you did a little research, you would realize that it's not only the LA Times reporting this GGJohn Oct 2014 #63

Please elaborate on the journalistic credibility of RIA Novosti. KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #64

Please elaborate your proclaimation that the police officer executed Myers. GGJohn Oct 2014 #66

Oh, 'execution' is putting it politely. How about 'gunned him down with KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #68

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #77

not only a lame argument Enrique Oct 2014 #96

You can make that assertion, but it's contradicted by the LA Times' KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #99

Last line of the OP = my first thought on seeing the thread title. merrily Oct 2014 #58

Funny how if the execution of Myers was so righteous, the SLPD can't release the KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #65

Pig this, killer pig that? GGJohn Oct 2014 #69

Tell that to the youth of Ferguson and St. Louis, why don't you? KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #72

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #76

Fine...now how did it get there? Deuce Oct 2014 #78

My first impression on this story, before going to the link matches the link: freshwest Oct 2014 #80

That would not account for the GSR on the inside of his pockets or waistband. branford Oct 2014 #82

We are on a message board, not in the streets as a mob, and not in court. EDITED for you: freshwest Oct 2014 #83

A few quick points branford Oct 2014 #98

There won't be any trial n/t Bacchus4.0 Oct 2014 #91

You may want to tell branford that, as I only answered his concern that opinion would influence one. freshwest Oct 2014 #97