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110. So if you never once said that it did not happen, thank you. But if you admit that

Thu Oct 30, 2014, 02:42 PM

Oct 2014

it does happen, then you cannot make the claim that there is no racism in the Democratic Party and that the people of color here on Democratic Underground have not experienced racism/racial bias.

Can you?

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And let me say this to you:

You and I have had run-ins before, so I'm well aware of what your point of view is. The last time we discussed issues regarding race (re: white privilege), I asked you to please step outside of yourself and listen to those who have experienced racism/racial bias/racial discrimination.

Don't just dismiss people's experiences because you can't come to terms with the racism that DOES exist.

Instead, listen to the experiences of others. Don't kick sand in their faces. Don't deny their experiences. And please, do not dismiss them.

LISTEN!! Open your mind, heart, and ears. LISTEN!!

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WV Columnist Sets Off Storm Calling Michael Brown 'Animal' Who Had To Be 'Put Down' [View all] Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2014 OP

'The state's leading conservative outlet.' Well, there you have it. freshwest Oct 2014 #1

He just put to print what 99% of conservatives already believe anyway... Blue_Tires Oct 2014 #26

And sadly some DUers too! Racism is not confined to the right. We've witnessed it right Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #30

"We've witnessed it.....in the Democratic Party." Please tell me you're not serious. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #33

You just alerted on her - right? JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #36

I never ONCE said that it didn't happen, period. Not once. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #38

You've told me before you are pretty young JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #40

I'll admit I was a little harsh in the title of my reply. I apologize..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #42

So if you never once said that it did not happen, thank you. But if you admit that Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #110

I'm sorry, but..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #112

No one suggested that racism on DU or the Democratic Party is widespread. No one Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #115

"No one suggested that racism on DU or the Democratic Party is widespread." That is absolute B.S. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #118

Really, I'm done with you. Let's just agree to disagree on this issue. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #121

Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #124

who can you heaven05 Oct 2014 #134

Re: "And your deflection into reverse racism is laughable and transparent". AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #135

what ever you say heaven05 Oct 2014 #151

Help me out here ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #159

I would think heaven05 Oct 2014 #161

Interesting ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #158

Impossible heaven05 Oct 2014 #133

It's more than that ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #157

It figures heaven05 Oct 2014 #48

What do you mean by this isn't 'The Democratic Party' circa 1954? bravenak Oct 2014 #65

..... AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #68

I would like you to consider the possibility that. bravenak Oct 2014 #74

Just unlucky or misunderstood ??? Wtf ? Can see why you were banned from forum wtf? lunasun Oct 2014 #81

See Post #79 for context. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #82

??? heaven05 Oct 2014 #86

I'll give you a perfect example of racism in the Democratic Party--a RECENT example-- Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #114

Exceptions don't prove the rule, Stalwart. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #116

You don't get to say what racism is and is not. If someone is being stopped for Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #119

Notice the language ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #168

again with the exception BS? heaven05 Oct 2014 #153

Re: your crime statement: With regard to population percentages, they do. 7962 Oct 2014 #144

Also JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #147

I'm sure heaven05 Oct 2014 #154

Here's the problem with the statistical argument ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #170

The original poster mentioned pure numbers not percentages 7962 Oct 2014 #174

Okay, let's take those pure numbers ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #176

True; know your surroundings. 7962 Oct 2014 #177

Very true ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #178

My question is ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #166

He decides what is real for us is what I assume. bravenak Oct 2014 #167

Thats a pretty darn good way of looking at it, too. 7962 Oct 2014 #173

please tell me you are not serious noiretextatique Oct 2014 #80

AverageJoe90, are you a person of color? Yes or no? Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #109

Does it matter? AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #111

Yes it does matter because if you are not a person of color, then you are not Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #117

I'd like a straight answer, please. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #120

If I'm spreading B.S. and doing all these things you say, REPORT ME!!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #122

SHUT UP Number23 Oct 2014 #138

I like your pre-edit version better ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #171

Thanks. I think I do too Number23 Oct 2014 #182

After 9k posts you should know better. /nt Ash_F Oct 2014 #172

Your post survived a jury JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #37

Juror #3's is totally facepalm-worthy, btw. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #41

I was in on that decision JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #43

thanks heaven05 Oct 2014 #50

That was jarriing to read JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #64

I found the thread JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #77

I left a response on heaven05 Oct 2014 #87

I did get it JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #89

not likely heaven05 Oct 2014 #90

Ahhh there go those JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #91

mommieeee!!!!! heaven05 Oct 2014 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #94

Heh. Just notice that cretinous little troll that alerted on my post was shown the door WEEKS ago Number23 Oct 2014 #146

Yet JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #148

Heaven is not a host of the AA forum and had nothing to do with your banning. Number23 Oct 2014 #139

I have to laugh at the nonsense sometimes. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #53

+10000 heaven05 Oct 2014 #44

truth hurts heaven05 Oct 2014 #49

"Truth"? If that was truth, then Jimmy Carter is a fuckin' Teabagger.....(edited) AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #79

It was not heaven JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #85

I just *now* realized I had him confused with a certain other individual. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #93

Not Number23 either JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #95

That's not what I saw. This is the message I got from the Automated Message system: AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #99

There are several hosts in the group JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #102

"I'm sorry - but I don't lick heels. It's not in my nature." Me neither. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #104

"decent and thoughtful" heaven05 Oct 2014 #107

At least I've (indirectly) admitted to keeping an open mind. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #113

Prove to the Admin JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #123

Shouldn't be at all hard to do. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #125

Go ahead JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #127

Well, emotionally mature self-reflection ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #130

That's it in a nutshell.nt bravenak Oct 2014 #143

My "personal agenda" is to see as little of you on this web site as is humanly possible Number23 Oct 2014 #140

OH GMAFB.... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #55

nope heaven05 Oct 2014 #59

yep...this is a stupid attack on Dem. and DU VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #61

of course not heaven05 Oct 2014 #62

exceptions do not make the rule... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #78

Feel free to alert me and have me banned, then! You'll fail because you know that Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #69

NOOOO YOUR claim is the utter bullshit! VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #76

Forget about it. "Liberal Stalwart" was just here to cause trouble anyway, it seems. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #83

yeah some people is right VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #88

Some people hold grudges JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #96

yepper heaven05 Oct 2014 #97

some people also have good memories and whose VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #101

yep sure do heaven05 Oct 2014 #103

some of us are.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #105

just saying heaven05 Oct 2014 #106

not if its a one way street.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #129

yours is heaven05 Oct 2014 #132

actually mine another Democrat on Pennsylvania Avenue... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #136

so you hope heaven05 Oct 2014 #149

WTF are you talking about???? VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #156

well, we're on heaven05 Oct 2014 #160

I am not writing a book...perhaps you are . VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #162

good day to you heaven05 Oct 2014 #163

whatevs.. VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #164

Then, report me! Report for slander. Report me for offending the entire Democratic Party. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #108

don't lose it heaven05 Oct 2014 #131

exceptions do not make rules... VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #137

????? heaven05 Oct 2014 #150

actually not surprised in the least that YOU VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #155

Oh I get it, I totally get what I'm dealing with here. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #179

a "good many" is subjective and doesnt mean a majority VanillaRhapsody Oct 2014 #181

As always! You know it! We know the truth, and Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #180

True. True. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #71

Allow me to translate: XemaSab Oct 2014 #145

hit the nail on the head heaven05 Oct 2014 #165

Further translation. kwassa Oct 2014 #169

There's a reason why that post wasn't alerted on XemaSab Nov 2014 #183

Thanks to you and Talking Points Memo vlakitti Oct 2014 #2

Agreed. bvf Oct 2014 #14

Small point JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #63

You are absolutely right and I apologize vlakitti Oct 2014 #67

That's okay JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #73

Ohhhhh Poor Don Surber.. Poor little thing. he had to watch Protests and Police Brutality and he Cha Oct 2014 #3

They're feigning ignorance Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2014 #4

Yeah.. like "Who us?!" Cha Oct 2014 #5

+1 merrily Oct 2014 #51

Your short comment must be the most insightful of all the comments I've read. Any KingCharlemagne Oct 2014 #84

Affected their reputation? Reputation as what? theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #10

disturbing Skittles Oct 2014 #6

Let me guess, their subscriptions will increase from more crazies buying the paper davidpdx Oct 2014 #7

Yeah, more fishwraps and birdcage liners. Aristus Oct 2014 #19

Sick. Scuba Oct 2014 #8

I Won't Be Surprised billhicks76 Oct 2014 #9

Hell's bells... czarjak Oct 2014 #11

Cue shitstorm of whiny poutrage about how "oppressed" this guy is, and the 1st Amdt. hatrack Oct 2014 #12

Hell, I'm surprised maxrandb Oct 2014 #15

It was one hell of an audition SnowCritter Oct 2014 #21

Looks Feral Child Oct 2014 #13

just sad heaven05 Oct 2014 #16

The black Kenyan Muslim in the White House and people have lost their fucking minds! Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #31

These fuckers don't even feel the need to use dog whistles anymore. bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #17

They never did. We all knew what "welfare queen" was. No one had to spell it out for us. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #32

I could say alot of things, but I won't. Shame on WVA. Has Surber been fired yet? sinkingfeeling Oct 2014 #18

This is the very dangerous tack taken by right wing thugs, mountain grammy Oct 2014 #20

Column negoldie Oct 2014 #34

"selling racism to the hillbillies" Psephos Oct 2014 #39

I find a lot of irony here theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #58

Hillbillies? Oh, you mean people like me? theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #57

When I put it up here JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #66

"Perhaps it's an understanding of what it feels like." theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #72

hhhhmmm heaven05 Oct 2014 #47

Horrible, inexcusable. Surber should be fired by the publisher/editor asap. Very disturbing, appalachiablue Oct 2014 #22

Fired? - hell, no packman Oct 2014 #23

He's got a face for radio. 7962 Oct 2014 #25

Oh my JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #142

I can't comment on this due to my personal moratorium; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2014 #24

yep heaven05 Oct 2014 #45

When are the death-threatening drunk drivers of vehicles displaying the Confederate flag vkkv Oct 2014 #27

no time soon heaven05 Oct 2014 #46

They're still publishing his columns as of today Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2014 #28

Well, that was totally expected theHandpuppet Oct 2014 #29

Well, given that this is a conservative paper, in W.V., no less, I can't say I'm surprised. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #35

True. A lot of conservatives are closet racists. Don Surber came out of the closet. Louisiana1976 Oct 2014 #54

Most these days heaven05 Oct 2014 #60

Yes, and many of the Teabaggers have power in Congress. AverageJoe90 Oct 2014 #70

Vile, him AND his paper. Vile and shameful. merrily Oct 2014 #52

I hope to hell he'll get fired soon sakabatou Oct 2014 #56

Contacts for the paper, who are hoping they can ride this out Adenoid_Hynkel Oct 2014 #75

thank you heaven05 Oct 2014 #98

Writer fired for calling Mike Brown an animal who needed to be put down Eugene Oct 2014 #100

Justice is served. Liberal_Stalwart71 Oct 2014 #126

The best thing to come out of this thread. Number23 Oct 2014 #141

Many jobs await him. WhoWoodaKnew Oct 2014 #152

Perhaps Hannity's buddy Hal Turner is hiring. bullwinkle428 Oct 2014 #175

calling any youth an animal pretty much is a sign of surber's racist slant i would think samsingh Oct 2014 #128