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Vinca

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104. Isn't the pipeline still tied up in more local battles?

Sun Nov 9, 2014, 09:52 AM

Nov 2014

Maybe the challenges will stop it until sane people are elected again. Or not. I'm beginning to wonder why I should worry about the purity of red state water if they don't care and continue to elect Republicans.

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GOP has votes to pass Keystone [View all] philosslayer Nov 2014 OP

so kiss the Human species goodbye! RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #1

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #12

good question libmom74 Nov 2014 #14

I wouldn't mind if it was just humans Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #21

Yep! NCarolinawoman Nov 2014 #32

Spot on! City Lights Nov 2014 #40

I've felt this way all my life - cilla4progress Nov 2014 #77

The Keystone pipeline will be the end of the human race? former9thward Nov 2014 #41

You simply do not understand the implications of RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #55

I guess you are unaware of reality. former9thward Nov 2014 #59

I am aware of reality as you state it RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #60

Not "going to move it", it IS being moved. former9thward Nov 2014 #62

Then why bother with a pipeline? daleo Nov 2014 #69

It is more efficient. former9thward Nov 2014 #76

"economical"? hopemountain Nov 2014 #88

Well, I'm pretty sure none of us are oil drillers Recursion Nov 2014 #99

"The trees on this planet provide much of the oxygen" rock Nov 2014 #63

They took all the trees and put 'em in a tree museum Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #73

You for the moment have pi posts! rock Nov 2014 #75

Trees? yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #78

not if the water and the air are poisoned first. nt hopemountain Nov 2014 #89

Well you have a point there yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #91

and if the drought continues ... hopemountain Nov 2014 #92

And you think it won't get cleared for oil if the pipeline isn't built? (nt) Recursion Nov 2014 #98

The hyperventilators said the same thing about the WestSeattle2 Nov 2014 #64

Do you honestly believe they're going to reforest this vast man-made disaster area? Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #68

Blocking the xl pipeline wont fix that mess. DCBob Nov 2014 #95

But building a 2,000-mile pipeline to carry that crap is asking for trouble, Art_from_Ark Nov 2014 #102

Don't you know AnalystInParadise Nov 2014 #84

The mega rich will climb on a virgin space vehicle of some sort workinclasszero Nov 2014 #54

Wasn't this the plot of Elysium? Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #71

Wow you are pretty much right..now I got to see that film workinclasszero Nov 2014 #82

And TPP, and the Grand Bargain... KamaAina Nov 2014 #2

The GOP says thousand of new jobs, but the facts don't show where more then 100 jobs. sammy750 Nov 2014 #3

On the contrary. Evidence suggest that Keystone may result in a net LOSS of jobs RufusTFirefly Nov 2014 #16

It will be thousands of construction project jobs madville Nov 2014 #103

Oh my, whatever will Sen. Cotton do! He'll vote for Keystone and then vote sinkingfeeling Nov 2014 #4

Maybe but not enough to override a veto. The real question is will Obama veto? PSPS Nov 2014 #5

If the people voted to change direction, might that not include acceptance of Keystone? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #8

i take that as a "No" n/t Enrique Nov 2014 #10

If the POTUS is interested in what the American people say they want, then Keystone it is. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #13

no, sometimes presidents show leadership Enrique Nov 2014 #19

So, in some cases, when the POTUS goes with public opinion, and let's be clear, there's no greater.. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #25

Opinion polls? You know what opinions are like right? Darb Nov 2014 #42

Is there another scientific way to gauge public opinion, or is yours the only one that matters? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #46

There's always science itself. Ever thought of that? Darb Nov 2014 #85

my gut tells me that stat of 62% is wishful hopemountain Nov 2014 #90

Not a chance. truebrit71 Nov 2014 #9

Will Obama veto Keystone XL? NickB79 Nov 2014 #26

I'd say he doesnt 7962 Nov 2014 #29

It depends MurryMom Nov 2014 #57

No way in hell. ballyhoo Nov 2014 #33

I don't know if Canada is even going to go for it anymore sharp_stick Nov 2014 #6

There is still the one problem Samantha Nov 2014 #7

He'll approve it to save face Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #18

I don't think Obama is the type of person who would allow himself to be blackmailed Samantha Nov 2014 #31

When the pipe line causes damage malletgirl02 Nov 2014 #97

Which Dems? We need to flood their offices with emails, letters and phone calls. Publicly shame them Dont call me Shirley Nov 2014 #11

I'm confused. Isn't taking somebodies property by gov't for a private company "Big Gov't" hollowdweller Nov 2014 #15

Let's hope they take a bunch of teabaggers property Betty Nov 2014 #17

It's only worthy of ire if the black guy doesn't like it. Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #20

I hereby rename the project Kidney Stone KamaAina Nov 2014 #22

Keystone is going to happen. It always was. There's no further obstacles now. TwilightGardener Nov 2014 #23

Keystone was not opposed strongly by Democrats. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #24

folks they are already using that oil, it's being shipped to the okieinpain Nov 2014 #27

Actually, the stuff that is produced by the "oil" from Keystone is not destined to be gasoline ever. CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2014 #37

yes, but it is being shipped on our roads to our refineries through okieinpain Nov 2014 #39

Sucky, but the least of my concerns right now about this elections' outcome ... brett_jv Nov 2014 #28

That is kind of selfish. RoccoR5955 Nov 2014 #56

They do not have the votes necessarily kansasobama Nov 2014 #30

I guess we can say goodbuy to cheap gasoline here in Fargo. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #34

Gas prices rising MurryMom Nov 2014 #58

It's GAME OVER for the environment. Runaway temperatures and flooding, and droughts and pestilence. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #35

They really are trying to bring about the "end times" Ampersand Unicode Nov 2014 #72

Hammer hits nail, Darb Nov 2014 #86

Something new ? father founding Nov 2014 #36

57 + 3 = 60 davidpdx Nov 2014 #38

67 needed actually, which they don't have. Darb Nov 2014 #44

With Repubs taking control next year, can't they just vote to change the rule to a simple majority? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2014 #48

They could vote to end debate at 50 votes instead of 60, Darb Nov 2014 #50

Ok I see what you are saying, to override davidpdx Nov 2014 #70

The Alberta Tar Sands Excavation is........... Darb Nov 2014 #43

OK, but stopping the pipeline doesn't fix that Recursion Nov 2014 #100

For many A Job, is better than No Job. One_Life_To_Give Nov 2014 #45

What are the two evils that they are choosing from? Darb Nov 2014 #47

Unemployed Constituants One_Life_To_Give Nov 2014 #61

Last month 250K jobs were created, KXL would create 10k temporary jobs, Darb Nov 2014 #66

"would you like fries with that" Vs Construction One_Life_To_Give Nov 2014 #74

Look, if you think that those pipeline jobs are gonna explode the job market, Darb Nov 2014 #83

That didn't stop them from shipping our jobs overseas. eom RiverLover Nov 2014 #93

Gas prices under $3 a gallon need a XL Pipe for water not gas. polynomial Nov 2014 #49

It didn't even need to be veto-proof. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #51

What Dems will they peel off? vi5 Nov 2014 #52

Senate Dem's can filibuster, and Pres Obama has the power to veto. c588415 Nov 2014 #53

veto that sucker flamingdem Nov 2014 #65

whats the downside? quadrature Nov 2014 #67

Unlocks a vast reservoir of CO2, even more so than at present daleo Nov 2014 #79

Wow. Please allow me Darb Nov 2014 #87

Expect Bill McKibben to be arrested again...I'm thinking I should be with him. So should we all. nt adigal Nov 2014 #80

I feel bad for the young people who did get out and vote to try and prevent shite like this.. it's Cha Nov 2014 #81

How many of those who didn't vote.. KinMd Nov 2014 #96

Obama has vote to defeat it. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2014 #94

GOP Approving Pipeline Removes Albatross from Democrat's Neck eringer Nov 2014 #101

Isn't the pipeline still tied up in more local battles? Vinca Nov 2014 #104

Canada shale oil to Texas refineries & export to China. The 'State' govs allow the pipeline. Sunlei Nov 2014 #105