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OilemFirchen

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41. I have a MUCH better idea.
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 07:48 PM
Feb 2022

With all due deference to the Professor of Economics, about whom I don't know, and don't care to know a whit, this preposterous notion is being promoted by the selfsame individuals who want to see the U.S. leave NATO.

So... let's just give NATO to Russia, then have all the current NATO members leave and form a different organization, with NATO's charter, infrastructure, funding, et al. Then have the new organization repudiate NATO. We can call it HARPO. Or GROUCHO. Whatever.

That way, Russia enters, the U.S. leaves, and the whackjobs get and give their mutual reacharounds. For the sane world, it accomplishes the same goal, and adds just the right amount of slapstick to allow for the ridicule it dearly deserves.

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Invite Russia to join NATO [View all] Uncle Joe Feb 2022 OP
Maybe it would work if someone other than Putin was running Russia True Dough Feb 2022 #1
I believe the only feasible way for it to be structured would be Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #5
Russia rso Feb 2022 #2
+1 2naSalit Feb 2022 #4
But the Russians haven't asked him for his opinion! Nt AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2022 #13
Isn't NATO about democracies against dictatorships? brush Feb 2022 #3
So basically... 2naSalit Feb 2022 #6
That wasn't my take from it. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #8
It isn't a good idea... 2naSalit Feb 2022 #10
If Russia became a democratic nation first, why would Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #14
That would require 2naSalit Feb 2022 #16
I agree Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #19
I think it's pollyanish. 2naSalit Feb 2022 #20
You don't believe there are any democratic reformer types in Russia? Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #23
WHo is currenlt in power? 2naSalit Feb 2022 #24
I agree, oligarchs are the issue and Putin will not live forever. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #25
I think it looks like... 2naSalit Feb 2022 #27
The offer doesn't have to be to Putin, it can be to the Russian People. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #28
absolutely not. NATO and the EU stopdiggin Feb 2022 #7
What do you believe to be the predominant internal dynamics driving Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #9
Probably the same folks... 2naSalit Feb 2022 #21
Oligarchs? Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #22
in a word, populist nationalism stopdiggin Feb 2022 #49
I love the bio disclaimer AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2022 #11
Well that might work except for the fact Chainfire Feb 2022 #12
1. Russia would need to become more democratic first. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #17
Oh, what a great idea! rsdsharp Feb 2022 #15
No. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2022 #18
Or inviting a mass murderer to share a living space with your kids dalton99a Feb 2022 #35
That's a great analogy. greatauntoftriplets Feb 2022 #37
Absolutely not! And kick putin's ass out of UN for this aggressive stunt! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #26
Sounds Game of Thrones-ish given Putin. Maybe it KPN Feb 2022 #29
That would be critical to its' success, a democratically elected leader in Russia. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #30
That's a BIG NO! Rebl2 Feb 2022 #31
Who would invite Russia to join NATO? Beastly Boy Feb 2022 #32
I believe all that getting our ducks in a row are minor considerations, the MESSAGE Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #33
If I understand you correctly, you are not actually calling for NATO to invite Russia. Beastly Boy Feb 2022 #38
Yes I am, NATO can invite Russia and Ukraine to join as a pair, subject to NATO's Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #40
NATO can only invite Russia and /or Ukraine after governments of each country formally express Beastly Boy Feb 2022 #42
The first OFFICIAL step. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #45
Ok, so you are talking about post-Putin Russia, unlike the dude who wrote the article. Beastly Boy Feb 2022 #50
China should be invited next, and then North Korea dalton99a Feb 2022 #34
Absolutely if they meet NATO's guidelines, ie: Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #36
NO Ameri Canadian Feb 2022 #39
I have a MUCH better idea. OilemFirchen Feb 2022 #41
I for one never thought the U.S. should leave NATO Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #43
Didn't say you did. OilemFirchen Feb 2022 #44
"Populauthoriatism?" Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #46
At the risk of repeating others' rejoinders... OilemFirchen Feb 2022 #47
NATO would still be a great security blanket and could last for as long as it wanted. n/t Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #48
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