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(196 posts) Sun Dec 11, 2011, 05:52 PM Dec 2011

Frum: Fox News creates an ‘alternative knowledge system’ [View all]

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/11/frum-fox-news-creates-an-alternative-knowledge-system/

Conservative columnist David Frum, who was speechwriter for former President George W. Bush, blasted Fox News on Sunday for creating an “alternative knowledge system.”

In an article published by New York Magazine in late November, Frum had argued that conservative media like Fox News and talk radio “immerse their audience in a total environment of pseudo-facts and pretend information.”

In an appearance on CNN Sunday, Frum cited claims made on Fox News that President Barack Obama was proposing a “new Christmas tree tax,” something that was found by both The Florida Times-Union and PolitiFact Oregon to be not true.

“It fed into a story about this Muslim-y kind of president trying to destroy a Christian holiday,” Frum explained to CNN’s Howard Kurtz. “To make this a ground for a cultural conflict, to create a sense in large numbers of people they are being persecuted and attacked at a time when the country is in so much trouble, that’s how this thing is fed.”

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I'm liking Frum lately JBoy Dec 2011 #1

He did say that he would vote for the GOP candidate no matter who he or she is. libinnyandia Dec 2011 #5

Well, to be fair, that's the boat most of us are in too. jtrockville Dec 2011 #17

Good point slay Dec 2011 #33

since he probably feels Republicans are still the "lesser" evil. AlbertCat Dec 2011 #39

Yes indeed - that's probably one thing we all can agree on. jtrockville Dec 2011 #43

Not necessarily. freefall Dec 2011 #48

That's true. Touche. jtrockville Dec 2011 #49

Don't waste too much "like" on him... JHB Dec 2011 #25

It is more sinister than that Its Propoganda lovuian Dec 2011 #2

But conservative "pretend information" was your SPECIALITY, Frum! rocktivity Dec 2011 #3

K&R CJCRANE Dec 2011 #4

Propaganda is easier to say cyglet Dec 2011 #6

Translation into plain English meow2u3 Dec 2011 #7

Even the word "Propaganda" is a little too soft when your talking about... Larry Ogg Dec 2011 #22

I believe the precise technical term is "disinformation". Fozzledick Dec 2011 #27

And in clinical terms it would be called pathological lying... Larry Ogg Dec 2011 #28

Of the various linguistic choices tomg Dec 2011 #29

Thank you tomg, truth doesn't need to be complicated and confusing... Larry Ogg Dec 2011 #36

truth doesn't need to be complicated and confusing... AlbertCat Dec 2011 #40

so many people are so gullible arely staircase Dec 2011 #8

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at how foolish people are. mwb970 Dec 2011 #14

Wingnut emails The Wizard Dec 2011 #19

"or you don't deserve the freedom they protect" when it's about "the troops." arely staircase Dec 2011 #34

K and R...outstanding post...someone inside admitting....."an alternative Knowldge system..." Stuart G Dec 2011 #9

ditto Regnery and their "Politically Incorrect Guides" ("the hippies wanted a dictatorship!") MisterP Dec 2011 #10

I agree completely with everything David Frum said. Little Tich Dec 2011 #11

But "cult" is shorter and easier to pronounce. nt eppur_se_muova Dec 2011 #12

It's an alternative to the truth eyewall Dec 2011 #13

Did he say, "Pack of lies" ????? Magoo48 Dec 2011 #15

What Dorothy said... Scuba Dec 2011 #16

Pox and their GOP patrons The Wizard Dec 2011 #18

One day people will realize that FOX has fed them shit all this time liberal N proud Dec 2011 #20

Don't hold your breath. rdneal Dec 2011 #44

The media is often called the 4th branch of government for a reason JayceR Dec 2011 #21

Outsiders are ridiculed, & if reality doesn't agree with them, they'll.... warp reality AlbertCat Dec 2011 #42

"Other ways of knowing." PassingFair Dec 2011 #23

try Right Wing Propaganda, just like the fascists knew and loved ShockediSay Dec 2011 #24

I highly recommend David Frum's blog site Frum Forum. roseBudd Dec 2011 #26

Frum didn't have a problem with Fox when they were catapulting the propaganda for smokey nj Dec 2011 #30

K & R n/t ihavenobias Dec 2011 #31

Where's he been? Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #32

Frum was an employee of the rightwing think tank American Enterprise Institute rocktivity Dec 2011 #38

He seems to be trying to have his cake and eat it too. Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2011 #47

That is one of the best analyses and video clips I've seen. MarkCharles Dec 2011 #35

As in alternate reality? nt Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2011 #37

At least those who "immerse their audience in a total environment of pseudo-facts and pretend indepat Dec 2011 #41

My favorite line: mmonk Dec 2011 #45

Time to call a spade a spade: usrname Dec 2011 #46

Why Use Fancy Phrases Like 'alternative knowledge system'? When one succinct word will do... Yavin4 Dec 2011 #50

Alternative Reality System is better terminology to utilize! benld74 Dec 2011 #51

Fancy words coming from the anti "PC" right wing The Genealogist Dec 2011 #52