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OrwellwasRight

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21. IT's NOT OVER YET.

Mon Sep 2, 2013, 09:28 PM

Sep 2013

What don't you understand about that? There is nothing to be "accountable" for since the TPP is still unfinished. There is in fact time to fix or stop it, which you have done ZERO towards while you make arguments based on one Businessweek article? Do you even understand how trade policy is made in the Administration? If so, you do get that it's not made by the State Department or by the Secretary of State, right?

Blame ≠ accountability. What don't you get about that? Are you suing her? Pressing criminal charges? Campaigning for her non-reelection to a non-elected position that she doesn't even hold anymore?

What exactly are you doing to "hold her accountable" for President Obama's bad trade policies other than blamestorming all over DU? I'm dying to find out.

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Workers Speak Out About the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP)! [View all] OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 OP

and who played a leading part in drafting the TPP? Hillary Clinton. antigop Sep 2013 #1

TPP will be Hillary's "cornerstone" acheivment - Plucketeer Sep 2013 #2

And the President's! OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #4

Tis a sickening thought indeed Plucketeer Sep 2013 #16

And she's not the only one. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #3

we need to put the blame where it is deserved. HRC played a 'leading part' according to antigop Sep 2013 #5

So what? OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #6

no, it's NOT pointless. People need to know who is responsible for this sh*t. nt antigop Sep 2013 #7

It is if you don't do anything about it. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #8

it's not "whining". It's telling the truth. nt antigop Sep 2013 #9

Nope. Apportioning blame without taking action is whining. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #10

holding those responsible accountable is ACTING. It's not whining. antigop Sep 2013 #11

How are you holding them responsible by refusing to take any action OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #12

I have not "refused to act". nt antigop Sep 2013 #13

Yes you have. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #14

You don't know what "actions" I have taken to fight off the TPP. nt antigop Sep 2013 #15

I keep asking you to take an action. Sign the damn petition. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #17

I've taken lots of "actions" to stop the TPP. antigop Sep 2013 #18

Yes, so many anti-Hillary posts. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #19

such an activist you are...not trying to hold people accountable. What was that about antigop Sep 2013 #20

IT's NOT OVER YET. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #21

No, I have NOT done zero to stop the TPP, but you just keep posting that. nt antigop Sep 2013 #22

Post something that you have done then. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #23

I haven't criticized what others are doing. I've told you I've "taken actions" to stop the TPP and antigop Sep 2013 #24

I understand everything you are saying. Perfectly. I find it 0% persuasive. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #25

I didn't "criticize" anything. I posted an article to inform people. nt antigop Sep 2013 #26

I didn't find anything informative in the post. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #27

There's a lot of info in the article...perhaps you need to re-read it. nt antigop Sep 2013 #31

Sorry. Nothing new to me there. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #34

Nope. It's important to see who's doing this to us. nt antigop Sep 2013 #35

Yes. Obama. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #43

And Hillary played a leading part in drafting it. nt antigop Sep 2013 #44

Again, I advise you to study OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #47

I advise you to read the article about her "business legacy" at the State Dept. antigop Sep 2013 #49

So what? OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #59

keep kicking the thread...more people are reading the article! THANKS! antigop Sep 2013 #37

Yes, are rec'ing the OP. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #38

and the views on the Business Week article go up. Thanks for the kick. antigop Sep 2013 #39

No, not really. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #41

Yes, everyone is coming to this thread OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #45

that's not what I said...people can link to the article from this thread. Got it? nt antigop Sep 2013 #46

They can. But you assume they are. Got it? OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #48

Well, the views go up. So keep kicking! nt antigop Sep 2013 #50

At whose behest? MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #28

a leading part in drafting the TPP is a leading part. nt antigop Sep 2013 #32

At whose behest? MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #33

doesn't matter if it's at anyone's behest or not... a leading part in drafting the TPP is antigop Sep 2013 #36

Do you understand what it means to be part of an Administration? OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #40

do you understand what playing a leading part in drafting the TPP means? My, my, you sure antigop Sep 2013 #42

Do you understand what playing a leading part in drafting the TPP means? My my my you sure OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #51

I read the article. You sure seem anxious about that article, don't you? antigop Sep 2013 #52

No, I'm not anxious about anything. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #53

Another kick...Thanks. nt antigop Sep 2013 #55

No, thank YOU. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #56

Have a great evening. And thanks for the opportunity for people to know what part Hillary antigop Sep 2013 #57

No, thank you for getting people to actually do something productive like signing a petition. OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #58

No, she didn't -- unless Obama *wanted* her to, of course. MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #54

She's a big girl. She didn't have to play a leading part in drafting the TPP.. it was her choice. antigop Sep 2013 #60

If you think I give a goddamn crap about the article you couldn't be more wrong MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #62

no, I am not trying to keep Obama out of this. Anyone who has read the articles on DU know he is antigop Sep 2013 #64

Again -- I don't give a crap about the article, nor am I -- like you -- keeping track of views. MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #65

LOL. Have a GREAT afternoon! 4476 views! nt antigop Sep 2013 #66

Is nice that there is at least one person who understands how the government works OrwellwasRight Sep 2013 #61

Worked for it for a long time. Hierarchy city. MotherPetrie Sep 2013 #63

Enacting TPP would prove that our democracy is dead................nt Enthusiast Sep 2013 #29

If TPP passes, we have no more need either a legislative or a judicial branch. Cutting out Congress ancianita Sep 2013 #30