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In reply to the discussion: Great Watch! Bernie at both his Serious and Funniest Best at the end of Segment with FBI Joke [View all]dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)and its corrupting influence, which is damn near total influence, which is why none of our representatives put any energy into the real reforms that would solve our problems to the benefit of our non-incorporated persons.
But your point is also extremely important, obviously, and thanks for taking the time to make it. It's pretty unbelievable our votes are cast and counted by far-rightwing corporations using proprietary and mostly unverifiable methodology.
I would think somebody would do something about it, isn't it generally up to the secretary of elections in each state, which is an elected position accountable to the people? There has been some progress in this area, in California for one, but not nearly enough, it seems that if the lie is big enough (computer voting and tabulation fraud) no-one is willing to take it seriously?
The studies I've read about how a percentage of the returns often tilts to the right more than would be expected are pretty damning. IIRC they usually use exit polls to make this determination, so of course the exit polls are attacked as unreliable. They were always considered extremely reliable in the past. I'm with you, this is a real problem and we are all just being distracted by the squirrel on Trump's head, or whatever the story of the day is, while the fix is in. I assume they only fix things if necessary, they prefer to manipulate opinion through media control and through ad buys paid for by the corporations whose interests are being served, but if the voters don't cooperate and vote for acceptable candidates, the election returns cannot be trusted, and there are a lot of real-world examples and studies to back that up. Huge problem.
Obama's choice for Secretary of Defense was an interesting one. From Hagel's wikipedia page:
in 1992 Hagel moved back to Nebraska to become president of the McCarthy Group, LLC, an investment banking firm.[28] He also served as a Chairman and was CEO of American Information Systems Inc. (AIS), later known as Election Systems & Software, a computerized voting machine manufacturer jointly owned by McCarthy Group, LLC and the Omaha World-Herald company.
Eh? A Republican Senator who was the former CEO of one of the largest computerized voting machine manufacturers was chosen by Obama to be his Secretary of Defense. I was thinking Hagel was being positioned to be POTUS after Obama. I don't know exactly what went bad for Hagel, he is clearly out of favor now, it was something I was keeping my eye on though.
Also there is this story, which I have not taken the time yet to delve into (too much going on trying to get my life in order right now) but it looks interesting:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016130139
A mathematician may have uncovered widespread election fraud, and Kansas is trying to silence her
Could somebody like Sanders get elected using today's election apparatus? I don't know. At this point he is still well behind Hillary. If he catches up to her before election day I don't know how much confidence I'd have in a fair result, or if he gets to the general election I sure don't know how much I'd trust it. Corporations have their interests, and they will do what they can to advance them.