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bluedigger

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33. "As Maine goes, so goes the nation."
Sat May 7, 2016, 02:26 PM
May 2016


"As Maine goes, so goes the nation" is a phrase that at one time was in wide currency in United States politics. The phrase described Maine's reputation as a bellwether state for presidential elections. Specifically, Maine's September election of a governor predicted the party outcome of the November presidential election in 19 out of the 26 presidential election years from 1832 to 1932, or 73 percent of the time. The accurate years were from 1832 (if not earlier) through 1844, in 1852, from 1860 through 1876, in 1888, from 1896 through 1908 and from 1920 through 1932.

Beginning with its creation as a state in 1820 when it split off from Massachusetts, Maine held its elections for statewide and congressional offices in September, not November as did most other states, due to warmer September weather and Maine's early harvest.[1][2] (Maine did hold its presidential elections in November.)[3]

Maine's reputation as a bellwether began in 1840, when it voted in Edward Kent, the Whig Party candidate, as Governor of Maine. Two months later, the Whig party Presidential candidate, William Henry Harrison, won the 1840 presidential election.[1] Again in 1888 Maine voted solidly for Republican Party candidates, and Republican Benjamin Harrison won the Presidential election despite losing the overall popular vote nationwide.[4] The saying originated following this election, though it is unknown by whom.[4] In subsequent election cycles, national political parties often went to considerable lengths to win Maine's early Congressional and statewide elections, despite the state's relatively small population (and hence few seats in the House of Representatives, and few electoral votes in the November presidential elections) and somewhat remote location.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Maine_goes,_so_goes_the_nation

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Is that effective immediately? Proud Liberal Dem May 2016 #1
Full effect in 2020 BUT unpledged are URGED to follow this rule for 2016. stlsaxman May 2016 #2
Yeah. That'll happen. *snicker* Gomez163 May 2016 #53
so u feel they should do what is wrong? or do what is just for all. juxtaposed May 2016 #54
They should all do this now. The Democratic Party should be Democratic and Not the Oligarchic Party Baobab May 2016 #64
agree ,, of the ppl. has no clout now juxtaposed May 2016 #87
Its about time. Why did they wait so long? Baobab May 2016 #65
in the schedule set by the DNC each state has its own convention. stlsaxman May 2016 #69
We already look horrible... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #75
Main doesn't control the Dem party: their vote means nothing lewebley3 May 2016 #5
Maine means a lot, especially to those who live here. It's a start of the People's Party. downeastdaniel May 2016 #11
Where is Main? Fuddnik May 2016 #17
Only in the rain dlwickham May 2016 #22
Will it go down the drain? Fuddnik May 2016 #23
Nowhere near John McCain. mac56 May 2016 #25
It's near Lake Champlain madamvlb May 2016 #34
Are you really that stupid Soxfan58 May 2016 #43
You get there in the rain RoccoR5955 May 2016 #50
Main Street. It's not Wall Street. nt valerief May 2016 #57
their vote means nothing AlbertCat May 2016 #18
Wow. Phlem May 2016 #27
Like this makes a difference. leftofcool May 2016 #38
Your respect for the will of the voters is noted Lordquinton May 2016 #45
They say it in the video. bkkyosemite May 2016 #6
Want to know why? Because we effing hate it when people try to force a candidate down our throats Android3.14 May 2016 #3
Hillary has won the every vote: It Sander people being sore losers lewebley3 May 2016 #7
Here's a hypothetical question for you: where do you suppose Gene Debs May 2016 #12
Clinton would have 1704 delegates, Sanders 1414. George II May 2016 #14
Yup. n/t OhZone May 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author 4bucksagallon May 2016 #74
"Hillary has won the every vote"? mac56 May 2016 #24
The Great Coast to Coast Disenfranchisement Tour notwithstanding. nt silvershadow May 2016 #28
You should be complaining to Tad Devine, who was instrumental in implementing superdelegates.... George II May 2016 #13
You go ahead. We all will deal with reality and change the rules at each State Dem Convention JimDandy May 2016 #76
It won't work. Once Sanders disappears back into the shadows, this so-called "revolution".... George II May 2016 #80
It is working and Sanders policies are what nearly half of all Dems JimDandy May 2016 #81
Unfortunately Sanders doesn't really have an articulated "policies", just "we don't want this"... George II May 2016 #82
Incorrect. His positions have been on his website. n/t JimDandy May 2016 #83
Actually, so does Hillary. Malteil May 2016 #88
Hillary won 3 million more votes than Sanders. SunSeeker May 2016 #37
Yeah, forget the fact that caucuses require fewer voters RoccoR5955 May 2016 #51
Only under Bernie math is 3 million more votes somehow "less." SunSeeker May 2016 #56
That's it, only count the primaries. RoccoR5955 May 2016 #58
And it only took voter suppression, party strong arm tactics & a unified corporate media Android3.14 May 2016 #60
Oh please. Sanders got almost as must free media as Trump SunSeeker May 2016 #68
Good for them! democrank May 2016 #4
Main should be not be allow to vote in the primary if they dont follow the rules lewebley3 May 2016 #8
D Fuddnik May 2016 #16
Your respect for the will of the voters is noted. Lordquinton May 2016 #47
You realize... Else You Are Mad May 2016 #49
The party can except or reject: it a private party: They have lewebley3 May 2016 #86
Ought to be called Super Cheaters...At least Maine gets it Bodych May 2016 #9
Excellent. The party should follow. mahannah May 2016 #10
Congratulations Maine on the move saidsimplesimon May 2016 #15
Superdelegates! An idea so bad..... AlbertCat May 2016 #19
And got Trump? nt OhZone May 2016 #31
And got Trump? AlbertCat May 2016 #35
Wow! Not really - OhZone May 2016 #44
A good step in the right direction.Hopefully other states will follow suit. Akicita May 2016 #20
The DNC should add super delegates in every one of the other states except for Maine. Firebrand Gary May 2016 #21
WTF HatTrick May 2016 #32
In case you're unaware, we've got an electoral college. Firebrand Gary May 2016 #39
Then don't vote. Although I'm pretty sure we have representative democracy. That Guy 888 May 2016 #52
I love to vote! And I LOVE Super Delegates! Firebrand Gary May 2016 #62
I don't have a degree in poli-sci, so maybe I misunderstood your post. That Guy 888 May 2016 #77
The Democratic Party will just select new delegates to replace Maine leftofcool May 2016 #41
If you remove the Super Delegates, you have to lower the threshold for nomination liberal N proud May 2016 #26
If there were no Super Delegates, Bernie would still fall short. AlbertCat May 2016 #40
This process is not new, but because your candidate isn't winning, your whining liberal N proud May 2016 #59
"... you have to lower the threshold for nomination ..."??? Jopin Klobe May 2016 #46
Kick and Recommended! nt Rebkeh May 2016 #29
"As Maine goes, so goes the nation." bluedigger May 2016 #33
Woo!Hoo! I'll be writing to my congressional rep magical thyme May 2016 #36
Now ... Jopin Klobe May 2016 #42
Whatever. BlueMTexpat May 2016 #48
It was too late for anyone when Clinton sewed up the nomination before the primary started. That Guy 888 May 2016 #55
It is not Hillary who has damaged BlueMTexpat May 2016 #63
If Sanders had run as an independent Clinton supporters would have said he split the vote. That Guy 888 May 2016 #78
The DNC gets to approve these rules Gothmog May 2016 #61
Each state is autonomous... stlsaxman May 2016 #70
I know that the DNC gets approve delegate selection plans and Maine cannot change its plan midstream Gothmog May 2016 #72
Read the DNC rules Gothmog May 2016 #73
...and can set the terms for the PLEDGED delegates it selects. brooklynite May 2016 #85
I just posted the same video if you like I will delete it. 4bucksagallon May 2016 #66
Kicked and recommended for democracy. Uncle Joe May 2016 #67
you are most welcome, Uncle Joe! stlsaxman May 2016 #71
It is a first step to making the "Democratic" Party a bit more democratic, don't you think? emsimon33 May 2016 #79
No...they didn't brooklynite May 2016 #84
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