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26. I don't think only Bernie can win but Hillary had better take the campaign seriously.

Mon May 9, 2016, 07:28 PM

May 2016

I think Bernie would probably have an easier time than Hillary but the mathematical odds of Bernie winning are so small that I expect Hillary to be our candidate.

It's going to be a horrific race. Two candidates, neither popular with the general public. Trump wallowing in personal attacks will force Hillary on the defensive and the only way out is to attack Trump in like form and try to put him on the defense. The problem with that is Trump doesn't have to defend himself because apparently any scandal you throw at him is ignored by his supporters. If they found a cache of children's skeletons under his house it probably wouldn't affect his voters.

At least it will be one for the history books.
Either candidate winning will set a new precedent.

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Hillary Clinton Is Not The Right Candidate to Face Donald Trump [View all] GoLeft TV May 2016 OP

Oh well... Shit happens.. FarPoint May 2016 #1

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Now there's the right reason to vote for someone. KPN May 2016 #17

I have backed Hillary Clinton since 2008. FarPoint May 2016 #20

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I have been paying attention to the Repugs for quite some time now ... KPN May 2016 #75

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well unlike Trump PatrynXX May 2016 #24

Sure she has closed the Primary race.... FarPoint May 2016 #30

Maybe, her primary odds are pretty good MiaM May 2016 #53

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I've voted in every Presidential Election since 1984 markbark May 2016 #115

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Compared to Drumpf? markbark May 2016 #119

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That's nice, but she has no path to victory. basselope May 2016 #78

Well, tough toenails, because she is the one who WILL face Donald Trump. You know why? Squinch May 2016 #2

Which one? The California one? The New Jersey one? The West Virginia one? Gene Debs May 2016 #7

The national one. And I know what you are going to say but yes, she did win. Squinch May 2016 #8

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"...it's over. You people are like the tea party." FailureToCommunicate May 2016 #70

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Ohhh, math skills. SO do keep posting why people in those states shouldn't bother voting because of FailureToCommunicate May 2016 #114

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HRC supporters are quite bad at math and are panicked enough to believe anything... MrMickeysMom May 2016 #3

I love when you kids say that Hillary's supporters are panicked. Its so cute and silly! Squinch May 2016 #9

How come I get hides when I make remarks like this? KPN May 2016 #19

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Talk about easy elections. Bernie in Vermont. redstateblues May 2016 #41

Bernie never had a job til he was 40. AlbertCat May 2016 #45

Pretty desperate there, eh AlbertCat? MrMickeysMom May 2016 #80

"A real sign of panic." Squinch May 2016 #54

.that^ 840high May 2016 #65

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Snide condescension really helps to unite the party. markbark May 2016 #116

You mean like "progressives" spreading every right wing smear in the service of a Squinch May 2016 #121

*tweet* markbark May 2016 #125

Bernie has only gotten 45% of the delegates so far but his math-challenged supporters think pnwmom May 2016 #22

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Yep. PatrynXX May 2016 #29

Hillary Clinton is the Moderate Right Candidate to Face Donald Trump. n/t Martin Eden May 2016 #4

And that's the problem........... mrmpa May 2016 #6

read various articles PatrynXX May 2016 #32

Piss on this! RBInMaine May 2016 #5

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Do NOT underestimate Trump. He will be RELENTLESS. Only Bernie can Win. zebonaut May 2016 #10

Because Trump would have a hard time attacking Sanders? JohnnyRingo May 2016 #11

Unfortunately, Hillary is not only carrying her baggage, she's carrying Bill's as well. jalan48 May 2016 #12

And Bernie's carrying Jane's. pnwmom May 2016 #27

ahh yes PatrynXX May 2016 #35

The person I was responding to was saying Hillary would carry Bill's baggage. pnwmom May 2016 #37

Bill isn't just Hillary's spouse. dchill May 2016 #105

He was a very popular President. It drove the Rethugs crazy that he was even more pnwmom May 2016 #106

Fail. Bill's got big time baggage. Jane's baggage is minor league stuff compared to his. jalan48 May 2016 #38

In your opinion. Since Jane's touted as his top advisor, her grandiose and hugely pnwmom May 2016 #51

Monica Lewinsky and impeachment. Burlington College? Nah, not even close. jalan48 May 2016 #61

Any Dem who was alive and paying attention during the impeachment proceedings pnwmom May 2016 #62

I don't disagree it was a witch hunt. jalan48 May 2016 #63

So? Hillary behaved admirably throughout the whole humiliating experience. pnwmom May 2016 #64

BJs from a young intern in the White House-extreme baggage. jalan48 May 2016 #74

She was an adult and a college graduate who to this day insists the relationship was consensual pnwmom May 2016 #81

Bill wasn't a 40+ sexist pig preying on a young woman? jalan48 May 2016 #85

Interesting that you aged her down. She was between 22 and 24 during the course of pnwmom May 2016 #87

Glad to hear it's all been worked out and that 90's baggage has been jettisoned. jalan48 May 2016 #88

It has for anyone who remembers that farce. I suspect you are young enough that you didn't pnwmom May 2016 #89

You are wrong. I lived through it and followed it. jalan48 May 2016 #91

It WAS a right wing conspiracy. Yes, Monica was real and Bill did mess around with her. pnwmom May 2016 #92

Ken Starr was a perv I think. He seemed to enjoy relating the salacious details. jalan48 May 2016 #97

I don't see why it should affect Hillary anymore than Jane's baggage will affect Bernie. pnwmom May 2016 #100

so why did he lie about it appalachiablue May 2016 #130

Either he lied because he didn't want to admit it to the world and Hillary OR pnwmom May 2016 #131

failing to acknowledge; that's good appalachiablue May 2016 #129

Trump is making it front 840high May 2016 #66

Her super delegates better put on their thinking caps. Pauldg47 May 2016 #94

Better than all the video with lies that Hillary has told. eom zalinda May 2016 #13

The only thing that can turn around an anti-Trump vote... JohnnyRingo May 2016 #14

Communist is not the big scarey thing that it was back in the day zalinda May 2016 #16

So is this why you support Hillary? KPN May 2016 #21

No, that's why Bernie can't win JohnnyRingo May 2016 #99

Can't argue with your point about the average voter. KPN May 2016 #104

Very reasonable point... JohnnyRingo May 2016 #108

*cough*tax increase*cough*socialized medicine*cough*welfare*cough* jmowreader May 2016 #107

"Disheveled little bundle" JohnnyRingo May 2016 #109

You know who he actually reminds me of? jmowreader May 2016 #110

Bernie farts rainbows Lil Missy May 2016 #111

That's dust. JohnnyRingo May 2016 #122

.... Lil Missy May 2016 #123

I don't think only Bernie can win but Hillary had better take the campaign seriously. Kablooie May 2016 #26

Relentless with who? skepticscott May 2016 #33

Millions of voters and hundreds of delegates disagree with you. She's the one. pnwmom May 2016 #18

We shall see. KPN May 2016 #23

We already know. FarPoint May 2016 #25

The Rethugs only hope was that Bernie would somehow be the nominee. AlbertCat May 2016 #39

"Everyone who would vote for a commie" would not comprise a winning coalition. nt pnwmom May 2016 #43

a winning coalition. AlbertCat May 2016 #46

She will. He won't. pnwmom May 2016 #50

No they would just run the video of Bernie promising to raise taxes redstateblues May 2016 #47

bookmarking for later. I agree with the premise, though. nt silvershadow May 2016 #28

Democratic voters do not agree with you. That's why Sanders lost despite his shameful pandering. Trust Buster May 2016 #31

Democratic voters do not agree with you. AlbertCat May 2016 #42

Oh snap. FailureToCommunicate May 2016 #71

Let me guess, without even watching this... liberal N proud May 2016 #34

Whenever I see the little rolling laughing man emoticon, I know whoever posted it is a child. Gene Debs May 2016 #48

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Is that the best you have? liberal N proud May 2016 #113

I am saving this for after Clinton wins the Presidency. wisteria May 2016 #40

This afternoon I went to our town community center for lunch underthematrix May 2016 #49

Love to hear BSS say Hillary is a weak candidate. What does that make Bernie? redstateblues May 2016 #44

So let me ask this, in all seriousness. What exactly is it about Hillary Clinton that makes Gene Debs May 2016 #52

Crickets.... 840high May 2016 #67

At least I was expecting crickets. Gene Debs May 2016 #68

For me, it's her ability to frustrate her detractors. LuvLoogie May 2016 #79

What the hell are you talking about? Do you have any idea how utterly nonsensical Gene Debs May 2016 #86

I also think she has a great sense of humor and an infectious laugh. LuvLoogie May 2016 #90

This is the sound of something whose nest should be destroyed before it lays eggs. I guess Gene Debs May 2016 #93

Shame on you! Birdie Sanders wouldn't like that at all! LuvLoogie May 2016 #95

Welcome to my ignore list. Gene Debs May 2016 #96

Still waitin' for an answer. Gene Debs May 2016 #124

The real scary thing about a Hillary-Donald SheilaT May 2016 #69

Sadly, this is probably a very accurate prediction. FailureToCommunicate May 2016 #72

And even more sadly, the Hillarybots SheilaT May 2016 #76

and neither do you jamese777 May 2016 #84

And how many voters will be so offended by the nastiness that they'll be completely turned off Rhiannon12866 May 2016 #98

Grrr. Bill Clinton did NOT win because of Ross Perot. ptownbro May 2016 #73

If this isn't an attack on our own nominee then it belongs in GD: Primary. RandySF May 2016 #77

Scott Adams, the cartoonist behind Dilbert, has a very odd article regarding Trump and what he mikehiggins May 2016 #101

Donald Trump will win in a landslide. *The mind behind ‘Dilbert’ explains why. PADemD May 2016 #102

Especially if your name is Donald Drumpf ffr May 2016 #103

I'm very much worried that you may be right. thucythucy May 2016 #126

Who is the right than? ElenaElena May 2016 #127

Bernie Pastiche423 May 2016 #128