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onit2day

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58. Thom Hartmann warns that corporate dems are using media to say
Fri Dec 28, 2018, 03:59 PM
Dec 2018

the progressive dems are not what the democratic party really wants despite all the evidence to the contrary. I've been a dem since birth and have always thought the democratic party was the party of the people not wealthy corporate donors which is why Thom Perez, president of the DNC has said only those candidates whose major donations come from multiple small donations should participate in the debates. I see the democratic party moving away from mega corporate donors , the banksters, wall street and fossil fuel donors which began on steroids with Pres. Clinton and back to multiple small donors like what has driven the progressive candidates recently. One thought, you can't claim to want something and then attack those trying to get it for you. The Democratic party remains the party of the people, the working class, the poor and the elderly. Makes me wonder: Is Skinner et al corporate conservadems or progressives?...or cannot be so easily classified lol.

Should Bernie run in 2020? [View all] tomhagen Dec 2018 OP
No Lucca2 Dec 2018 #1
I think the No's have it. I agree. olegramps Dec 2018 #42
Hillary was crucified for suggesting this reality. maddiemom Dec 2018 #76
No, He isn't even a Democrat. Bernie had his chance. Don't rehash the election. trueblue2007 Dec 2018 #62
Exactly! justie18 Dec 2018 #74
What about Linda Ed Dec 2018 #69
I like him and supported him in 2016 but no Jarqui Dec 2018 #2
I don't want a 2nd tRUmp term, so no. eom BlueCaliDem Dec 2018 #3
And what evidence do you have that Bernie would be continuing Doitnow Dec 2018 #50
He wouldn't. cab67 Dec 2018 #110
i didnt like him then i dont like him now..so NOPE! samnsara Dec 2018 #4
No, too old. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2018 #5
Hell no! nt OhZone Dec 2018 #6
Yes, he has my vote.He represents what a president should be onit2day Dec 2018 #7
He would NOT have beaten trump, there is no concrete evidence that he would have. In order.... George II Dec 2018 #27
He went from nothing to serious opponent virtually overnight. guruoo Dec 2018 #57
Nor is there "concrete evidence" that he would 'not' have onit2day Dec 2018 #61
You have too much common sense for some in here LiberalLovinLug Dec 2018 #95
Well we'll never know, he wasn't our nominee. George II Dec 2018 #103
I may disagree with you on whether he could have beaten the douchenfuhrer rpannier Dec 2018 #109
The polls said the same thing about Hillary Clinton. cab67 Dec 2018 #111
Exactly. He was never vetted. The gop would have smeared him as a communist.. Kahuna7 Dec 2018 #101
Well said!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #35
As you said "Even if he doesn't get the nomination he will make the entire venture more progressive" tecelote Dec 2018 #59
Why not? It's about issues anyway and Bernie offers his own ideas about what the country needs. jalan48 Dec 2018 #8
So if he does NOT run as a Democrat, you still support his running? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #10
I think anyone can run in the primary. jalan48 Dec 2018 #15
Which primary? Democratic primary? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #23
Not at all. You're confusing the primary with the general election. jalan48 Dec 2018 #33
So you are possibly going to support a NON democrat in the primary? Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #68
Why make this personal? jalan48 Dec 2018 #89
Why not answer my question? I am not kidding around, either. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #90
Good for you! I think if we focus on issues and not personalities we will have fewer problems. jalan48 Dec 2018 #91
Right, so if a candidate does NOT support a higher minimum wage or Medicare for all Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #93
I think we were originally talking about the primaries. Let's see who runs and debate the issues! jalan48 Dec 2018 #94
So there are 3 candidates in the 2020 election. Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #96
We just went through this. It's a no brainer. We have to support the Party nominee. jalan48 Dec 2018 #97
If it's a Democratic primary only declared Democrats can run. George II Dec 2018 #26
So all he'd have to do is declare as a Democrat? nt guruoo Dec 2018 #52
That's not all, he'd also have to comply with the rules of the Democratic Party.... George II Dec 2018 #53
Way too earily nt guruoo Dec 2018 #64
Now there's a concept... are you suggesting democracy?! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #36
OMG! jalan48 Dec 2018 #38
IKR!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #40
I thought this board was for ONLY Democrats? Please confirm your position on that! Eliot Rosewater Dec 2018 #70
Thom Hartmann warns that corporate dems are using media to say onit2day Dec 2018 #58
No. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #9
Agreed. And as a 67 year old I'll say: we need someone younger. fierywoman Dec 2018 #54
I also supported him. Agree and he'll be 79 in 2020. That's too old for that 24/7 job. sarge43 Dec 2018 #78
The only thing that bothers me is the age thing which really isn't that big a deal elmac Dec 2018 #11
No, he and the other old folks should gracefully bow out. Magoo48 Dec 2018 #12
No. IMO His role will be only divisive again. POC will not vote for him . apcalc Dec 2018 #13
No tazkcmo Dec 2018 #14
NO... handmade34 Dec 2018 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #17
No. murielm99 Dec 2018 #18
he totally should if he wants to /nt hopeforchange2008 Dec 2018 #19
Omg no and i cant elaborate for 90 days Fullduplexxx Dec 2018 #20
No mainstreetonce Dec 2018 #21
absolutely NOT katmondoo Dec 2018 #22
No. MontanaMama Dec 2018 #24
No. George II Dec 2018 #25
Hell no! redstatebluegirl Dec 2018 #28
I love Bernie's stances on most of the issues ZeroSomeBrains Dec 2018 #29
Funny you should mention Elizabeth... I'll take them both, in any order!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #41
I would love either combo there ZeroSomeBrains Dec 2018 #45
No. His time has passed. n/t CousinIT Dec 2018 #30
His time had passed? Good one! Meanwhile potential 2020 hopefuls are taking up the issues InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #43
When I listen to those "hopefuls" I hear Bernie talking. He had the Doitnow Dec 2018 #55
Well said mjvpi Dec 2018 #87
Oh, Gawd, no. MrScorpio Dec 2018 #31
No way nt solara Dec 2018 #32
Abso-fuckin-lutely!! Go Bernie!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #37
Just be careful about the 3rd way in the party running ads against all progressives elmac Dec 2018 #39
Gee, I wonder who's funding those ads?! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #44
What ads? sheshe2 Dec 2018 #98
Follow the money bahrbearian Dec 2018 #46
I'm shocked!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #48
Excellent Information! McKim Dec 2018 #113
Do you have a link to those ads? sheshe2 Dec 2018 #84
No way! pandr32 Dec 2018 #47
NO Bev54 Dec 2018 #49
No thank you RHMerriman Dec 2018 #51
No Gothmog Dec 2018 #56
No. N/T lapucelle Dec 2018 #60
No. n/t sheshe2 Dec 2018 #63
No... Tikki Dec 2018 #65
No!!!!!! nt jrthin Dec 2018 #66
No Linda Ed Dec 2018 #67
He is... Mike Nelson Dec 2018 #71
No. I voted for Bernie in the last primary, but had no problem supporting Hillary later. maddiemom Dec 2018 #72
Damn right he should recentevents Dec 2018 #73
No barbtries Dec 2018 #75
Yes. shanny Dec 2018 #77
Enthusiastic YES!!! Power 2 the People Dec 2018 #79
I know Bernie. I like Bernie. I wish Bernie had better speaking points on social justice issues aikoaiko Dec 2018 #80
No brandnewday2009 Dec 2018 #81
I support Bernie. Perhaps, after the debates, I'll choose someone else, but as of now ... nt earthshine Dec 2018 #82
Abso-fucking-lutely NO!! NurseJackie Dec 2018 #83
Nope. 2naSalit Dec 2018 #85
NO nt doc03 Dec 2018 #86
No. There's not a presidential bone in his body. nt lamp_shade Dec 2018 #88
No YessirAtsaFact Dec 2018 #92
No. northoftheborder Dec 2018 #99
Nyet. nt Kahuna7 Dec 2018 #100
No, I'm afraid TimeToGo Dec 2018 #102
Yes. guillaumeb Dec 2018 #104
Yes. spin Dec 2018 #105
No, flibbitygiblets Dec 2018 #106
If he wants to change his registration to 'Democrat', sure.....fine. SergeStorms Dec 2018 #107
No Bernie. His moment is well past. LakeArenal Dec 2018 #108
Has Bernie actually accomplished anything substantive? cab67 Dec 2018 #112
Sander's Ideas Must be Upheld! McKim Dec 2018 #114
Ideas are all well and good. cab67 Dec 2018 #116
You haven't been looking very hard. Doitnow Dec 2018 #120
Actually, I have. cab67 Dec 2018 #121
Let the voters decide. chwaliszewski Dec 2018 #115
No. I Want a Democrat to Win the Presidency. TomCADem Dec 2018 #117
. BootinUp Dec 2018 #118
No...I am voting for a Democrat. Mazeltov Cocktail Dec 2018 #119
Adding another NO to the pile Ruby the Liberal Dec 2018 #122
Under NO circumstances would I vote for another Ralph Nader. Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2018 #123
YES MortSahlFan Dec 2018 #124
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