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Stuart G

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66. 112 mph in a rental car..

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:49 PM

Mar 2013

I think it was a Mazda. don't know.. Totally deserted road about 75 miles north of Yuma. It was noon time in June..oh..maybe 105 degrees in the noonday sun..So, I knew it would go, so it went. Coming back from Yuma to Phoenix..a few days later, I drove the interstate at about 3am in the morning..Mile after mile of nothing...empty..car cruised at about 90..just ten over the limit..80..
strange place the Arizona desert..drove the entire 180 miles start to finish where I returned the rental...in about 2 and half hours..it had a 4...but don't remember much else.........Stuart G

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What is the fastest speed you have driven a vehicle? - [View all] ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 OP

I was a passenger Betsy Ross Mar 2013 #1

Were you scared shitless, or turned on? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #4

100mph is the highest I've ever driven Broken_Hero Mar 2013 #2

"You's makin' eighty-three mall 'n air." Bertha Venation Mar 2013 #3

83 ??!! guardian Mar 2013 #35

I got stopped in the Oklahoma Panhandle once for doing 68 Art_from_Ark Mar 2013 #85

Oh what the hell. 165, Ferrari 308 GTSI OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #5

110 in a half-ton - wow ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #8

No kidding. F150's are prone to rolling. talkingmime Mar 2013 #14

You don't roll a lot of cars on I-5, although I am amazed at the number OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #69

I owned a F150 ... In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #94

Felt like a cruse in a Caddie. Also felt like a good way to get a ticket. OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #128

Hmm - Actually, my 79 F150 4x4 is a nice ride ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #144

Every vehicle I've ever towed with (quite a few) rides better with a load strapped on. talkingmime Mar 2013 #170

120mph going down the Siskyou Pass on my Kawasaki LTD at 2am Taverner Mar 2013 #120

Yeah, 120 on a bike is pretty fast. OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #127

NO SHIT!!!! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #145

They don't call em rice rockets for nothing. OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #151

120 mph on my 300cc Honda Dream....in 1964 mithnanthy Mar 2013 #153

Would you do that today? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #156

You're right! mithnanthy Mar 2013 #257

Yup, some memories are well worth the foolishness we survived in our youth. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #262

The Siskayou Pass Between Or. and Ca.? LeFleur1 Mar 2013 #201

Half ton is only 1000 lbs. darkangel218 Mar 2013 #131

I believe the term half ton, when refering to a pickup truck, refers to OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #139

And even that is outdated with the newer trucks. Here's an article -> bike man Mar 2013 #141

You are correct in a way, it's the LEGAL carrying capacity ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #146

Ahh okay, i didnt know that. darkangel218 Mar 2013 #154

Link to an article re rating in response 141, just above. nt bike man Mar 2013 #142

105 mph in my 1985 Ford Thunderbird... CherokeeDem Mar 2013 #6

Ford Taurus (1995) Agschmid Mar 2013 #7

About 125. Corvette, on the Interstate in MA. Felt like I was going about 35. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2013 #9

Must be a newer Corvette than I ever drove. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #162

This one wasn't stock. The guy that owned it had done all sorts of things to it. He had just RKP5637 Mar 2013 #168

118 on a deserted stretch of Interstate in my '71 Dodge Charger (sober) and I cracked 100... MiddleFingerMom Mar 2013 #10

Charger - 340 - 383 - 440? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #38

'71 383 4 bbl -- a buddy of mine in Germany shipped over his Dodge Daytona Charger... MiddleFingerMom Mar 2013 #49

115 in a mazda 3 fizzgig Mar 2013 #11

115 in a Mazda! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #15

total oh shit moment when i looked at the speedo fizzgig Mar 2013 #21

I used to drive through Wyoming quite a bit, sometimes in the RKP5637 Mar 2013 #17

i almost ran out of gas out there once fizzgig Mar 2013 #22

Ohhhh, I know exactly what you mean. Thank god for GPS today and maybe being able RKP5637 Mar 2013 #59

LOL - still LOL - maps still work for me ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #157

Somewhere in the vicinity of 130mph (spedometer pegged at 120) on a four-lane highway. talkingmime Mar 2013 #12

car or truck? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #16

Galaxie class star ship with a 390. talkingmime Mar 2013 #25

390 - haven't made them for decades ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #30

Mine's a '68. talkingmime Mar 2013 #31

428 - wasn't that called an "Interceptor" or sumthing like that. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #40

Yep. Any pumped up muscle car was an interceptor. The Galaxie was a popular model. talkingmime Mar 2013 #45

115 mph in a Rincewind Mar 2013 #92

OH yeah - luvved them old gas-gobblers ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #158

horizontally? nt alphafemale Mar 2013 #13

Motor vehicle, car/truck - so yeah ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #19

140 in the US Marshals new Crown Vic NightWatcher Mar 2013 #18

I know about police Crown Vics ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #24

150+ in a blown picklefork hydro on Lake Berryessa. bluesbassman Mar 2013 #20

wow - Reminds of the "Thunderboat" races in San Diego in '79 ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #26

Yeah, we had been watching drag videos all weekend. bluesbassman Mar 2013 #29

120 in a Toyota Supra. nt hack89 Mar 2013 #23

Not quite sure liberaltrucker Mar 2013 #27

Probably around 90 union_maid Mar 2013 #28

I once did The Kessel Run in 12 parsecs..... Inkfreak Mar 2013 #32

Have to take the 5th. on this olddots Mar 2013 #33

Datsun 260 Z In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #34

A Benz, 120, the Autobahn MrScorpio Mar 2013 #36

About 195 mph or... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #37

Memories - I had a 66 Impala convertible - 283 ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #39

check the oil and... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #42

Motor mounts - right! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #75

Working at a gas station one day.... MindPilot Mar 2013 #166

Have a pic: discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #50

Sharp car! goodthanksandyou Mar 2013 #199

Thanks, but it had a design flaw ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #205

I think I remember where that speaker was located... goodthanksandyou Mar 2013 #244

Ding ding ding! - got a winner, you are exactly correct! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #246

The Impala was my first car goodthanksandyou Mar 2013 #271

If I was to ever have a "summer car" that'd be it ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #274

155 in a 1969 Ford TBird azurnoir Mar 2013 #218

Was it a 4 dr? - they were what they called "suicide" doors ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #295

No it was a convertible no suicide doors the speedometer went to 210 azurnoir Mar 2013 #296

Wow - that is one purty car! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #297

another pic rear view ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #215

Beautiful! discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #219

Thanks ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #220

yeah they look great discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #227

I bought it in 75, it was cherry -yeah it had a body job methinks. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #230

Mine ended sadly as well. discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #234

I'm a mechanic, not a bodyman. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #236

Should have but... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #238

130 mph datasuspect Mar 2013 #41

120 in Lincoln Mark VII Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #43

Ah, Lincolns, I had 3 of them. 69 MkIII was the fastest. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #80

nice, very nice. I had an '89 model - looked a lot like this one Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2013 #104

160 mph. Call Me Wesley Mar 2013 #44

120 mph in a Ford Thunderbird. I just wanted to see how fast it could go. RebelOne Mar 2013 #46

140MPH in a 1991 Mustang GT Ahpook Mar 2013 #47

My kid has a hot rod '91 Mustang Go Vols Mar 2013 #79

Sounds about right Ahpook Mar 2013 #102

120 in MR2 840high Mar 2013 #48

110 in a 1976 VW Rabbit MadrasT Mar 2013 #51

omg fizzgig Mar 2013 #55

120 on a rrneck Mar 2013 #52

Sweet Honda V4's! rppper Mar 2013 #62

I had a chance to pick up a V65 a while back and didn't take it. rrneck Mar 2013 #64

I loved the sabre... rppper Mar 2013 #65

That's a purty bird that!! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #121

Mach 1.5 trof Mar 2013 #53

NOBODY IS IMPRESSED BY MACH 1.5? trof Mar 2013 #58

I'm impressed! Way to go... is there a boom when you are the one breaking the barrier? n/t Agschmid Mar 2013 #68

Not in the cockpit. trof Mar 2013 #96

I'm really impressed. olddots Mar 2013 #90

NOBODY IS IMPRESSED BY 260Z In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #95

I am. Moondog Mar 2013 #109

I hear ya, dog. trof Mar 2013 #114

Current in the '80s and '90s. Not sure about now. Moondog Mar 2013 #115

I was a 60s 70s troop. trof Mar 2013 #116

I'd be impressed if you were on a highway. RILib Mar 2013 #119

When I saw the OP title, my first thought was "How many posts will it take before petronius Mar 2013 #129

trof wins.... Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #226

Yay! What do I get? trof Mar 2013 #241

150 mph in a Dino Ferrari. speedometer said 250 kph. hobbit709 Mar 2013 #54

cool BainsBane Mar 2013 #72

You got a Dino that ran? One of my favorite 8 cyl Ferrari's! OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #73

110 in a new Mustang on a state highway mokawanis Mar 2013 #56

This message was self-deleted by its author triguy46 Mar 2013 #57

Needle buried at 120mph - 1976 Firebird - Illinois - Route 138 benld74 Mar 2013 #60

I pegged out my '88 Heavy Half Ford w/ a 428 interceptor dropped in it. (Scared the crap out of me) Arctic Dave Mar 2013 #61

110... sendero Mar 2013 #63

112 mph in a rental car.. Stuart G Mar 2013 #66

Our GTO .... polly7 Mar 2013 #67

Betcha is wasn't this nice tho ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #178

I'll find a picture. It was a beautiful car nt. polly7 Mar 2013 #179

That's cute, your young nephew doing the wash job ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #194

So tell us the story! OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2013 #70

See my post #80 - Lincolns. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author pa28 Mar 2013 #88

105 or so BainsBane Mar 2013 #71

Would that be the turbo? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #177

No, just a regular Escort BainsBane Mar 2013 #185

110 on 2 wheels HarveyDarkey Mar 2013 #74

I read threads like this, not for the high speeds, but for the lows. And for the I never drives. Bucky Mar 2013 #76

Over 90 but hard to tell because my odometer has "issues". intheflow Mar 2013 #77

Big motorcycle, Honda CBX1000, headed to Barstow California. hunter Mar 2013 #78

5MPH, that's about the fastest you can go in Los Angeles in rush hour. Initech Mar 2013 #81

110 mph, 1983 Kawasaki KZ1100. bike man Mar 2013 #82

120 mph. Apophis Mar 2013 #84

163 at the Salt Flats in a '57 T-Bird w/ Firestone 500 tires being pushed by a '64 Vette engine. AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #86

I wanted to sue Firestone for deliberate infliction of emotional distress MindPilot Mar 2013 #165

Firestone had such an excellent reputation leading up to the introduction of the 500s, AnotherMcIntosh Mar 2013 #167

140 mph - BMW 525 - autobahn Demo_Chris Mar 2013 #87

I did right close to 100 mph on my brother's motorcycle in the rain. cliffordu Mar 2013 #89

I understand you on that one n/t Victor_c3 Mar 2013 #132

130 mph steve2470 Mar 2013 #91

100mph sarge43 Mar 2013 #93

About 105 on my BMW. BarbaRosa Mar 2013 #97

160+ kph (100 mph) on German autobahnen...with the kids and wife!!!! SwissTony Mar 2013 #98

145 mph tk2kewl Mar 2013 #99

65, Nissan Sentra sakabatou Mar 2013 #100

Probably around a 100mph. bluedigger Mar 2013 #101

155 in my (now gone) '97 Supra on I-71 between Louisville and Cincinnati Bake Mar 2013 #103

130 in a Starsky and Hutch Torino. Then some body passed us in a Nova. progressoid Mar 2013 #105

back in the day, in Montana, I "pinned" it at 130 dr.strangelove Mar 2013 #106

155-Honda CBR929-Roebling Road Raceway. Savannah Ga. cbrer Mar 2013 #107

about 140 on my CBR600F3 snooper2 Mar 2013 #211

And how many people do you expect to know what a CBR600F3 is?? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #214

17 snooper2 Mar 2013 #221

About 120 mph in a 1973 Mercury Marquis 4_TN_TITANS Mar 2013 #108

Oh yeah, those Marquis rode like the Lincolns ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #123

BMW, about 135, Autobahn. Front end got skittish, backed down to about 120. Moondog Mar 2013 #110

one of these warrprayer Mar 2013 #111

114 in a GrandAm :p darkangel218 Mar 2013 #112

128 mph on a Honda Magna 500 and 136 in a 89 Corvette. jorno67 Mar 2013 #113

I called my V30 "the sportster killer" rppper Mar 2013 #138

best $1200 I've ever spent! jorno67 Mar 2013 #171

What is the fastest speed you have driven a vehicle? Flashmann Mar 2013 #117

90 mph in an ungoverned '99 Peterbilt - that's insane! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #125

I'm sure you get it Flashmann Mar 2013 #137

about 100 in my 1969 mustang RILib Mar 2013 #118

Damm! u guys keep bringing up memories! - 67 Mustang ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #122

It's in my garage as I type. Original owner. RILib Mar 2013 #169

That's what they call a "Boss" 429, worth 150 - 500k ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #172

120plus most weeks either in a charger, ford. also have my impala over a hundred most days. loli phabay Mar 2013 #124

Curious - dat be me! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #143

With me driving - about 130 Mopar151 Mar 2013 #126

108mph on a just broken in 1974 Kawasaki 900Z1 Doc_Technical Mar 2013 #130

173 mph on a Yamaha YZF-R1 Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #133

Wait, did I just win this thread? You know, beside the airplanes. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #134

Actually, no - this was not a contest. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #150

Well, I have been 130 on an SV650 and 140 on a Honda CB900F. Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #159

130, Autobahn, BMW MannyGoldstein Mar 2013 #135

A bit over 135 .... Scuba Mar 2013 #136

First time I saw one of them, I thought it was a mini Corvette! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #173

Luggage space was about six square inches. Encouraged "light travel". Scuba Mar 2013 #175

Well that sucks, where d'ya hide your beer?? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #176

Somewhere around 125mph NewJeffCT Mar 2013 #140

30 years ago ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #148

well, that was 20 years ago NewJeffCT Mar 2013 #155

115 in a 1971 Pinto MindPilot Mar 2013 #147

A PINTO??? - 115? - was it supercharged or what?? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #149

I think the cop was a little surprised too. MindPilot Mar 2013 #163

140 - 1973 Plymouth Sebring liberal N proud Mar 2013 #152

340? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #160

More power than that light car needed liberal N proud Mar 2013 #161

Friends suped-up corvette: 110Mph.. Snowmobile - 105 Mph EvilAL Mar 2013 #164

About 98 MPH goodthanksandyou Mar 2013 #174

HEY! - Welcome to DU ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #182

Thanks a lot! goodthanksandyou Mar 2013 #186

Welcome, and scroll up ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #187

115mph . . . 77 Cordoba CrazyOrangeCat Mar 2013 #180

77 Cordoba, reminds me of a 76 Salon I had - 360 2bbl ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #181

Cool, thanks man! CrazyOrangeCat Mar 2013 #183

Sumthing like this?? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #190

Very good, Canuck! CrazyOrangeCat Mar 2013 #191

35 on a 10-speed racing bike. 95 in a rental through the CA desert. freshwest Mar 2013 #184

Details, details - make, model, year? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #196

Rented a Lambo at Las Vegas Motor Speedway Socal31 Mar 2013 #188

LOL - hadda google to figure out what a Lambo was ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #195

12.08 sec @ 112.85mph Paulie Mar 2013 #189

Is this you? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #197

Nope Paulie Mar 2013 #204

That aint no stock LS1 Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #200

Of course it was stock Paulie Mar 2013 #203

Hey, settle, and welcome to DU ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #206

This is off topic, but I just had to share this ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #192

140 on the Edens spur ramp kurtzapril4 Mar 2013 #193

Does it lok like this under the hood? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #198

More or less! kurtzapril4 Mar 2013 #233

WOW!!! - Looks like a mechanic's nightmare! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #237

It is a mechanic's nightmare kurtzapril4 Mar 2013 #258

105 in a 1990 Toyota Camry WooWooWoo Mar 2013 #202

Camry is a well made car ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #207

Over 120 mph before the tire blew csziggy Mar 2013 #208

I did a boo boo road testing a 68 skylark when I was an apprentice ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #209

Skylarks were great cars, though they didn't have a reputation csziggy Mar 2013 #210

About 109 in a tractor trailer. 125 in my '92 Vette. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2013 #212

"the problem is finding tires that will handle the speed" - - 'ZACTLY!! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #213

177 MPH. In a friends Porsche 996 Turbo (2001 911 Turbo) Xithras Mar 2013 #216

Its hard to drive that piece of road under 90 m.p.h. olddots Mar 2013 #276

People who know that stretch usually don't speed on it. Xithras Mar 2013 #277

About 95 Fearless Mar 2013 #217

126 MPH, '84 VF500 Interceptor absyntheminded Mar 2013 #222

Mitsubishi Starion 115-120. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #223

130, my 07 Mustang GT, Bush Turnpike in Dallas. n/t bamacrat Mar 2013 #224

110 mph in a 1964 Mercury Comet. I was young and indestructible. yellowcanine Mar 2013 #225

We ALL thought we were indestructible when we were young ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #232

My cousin had a friend... discntnt_irny_srcsm Mar 2013 #235

on legal roads? backwoodsbob Mar 2013 #228

220mph - get a rush?? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #231

it was an interesting experience...did a few runs backwoodsbob Mar 2013 #250

"zero to 60 in like 3 flat" - yeah, that'd be a rush! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #260

once had the opportunity backwoodsbob Mar 2013 #252

138.xx, by GPS sir pball Mar 2013 #229

Charlotte Motor Speedway, July 1974, 142 MPH off the last turn of the tri-oval across the Ikonoklast Mar 2013 #239

142 on a motorcycle, that musta got the heart pumping! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #243

There is a difference between going 142 mph with that bike... Gravitycollapse Mar 2013 #245

you are officially insane backwoodsbob Mar 2013 #255

"I would have crapped myself" - maybe he did! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #263

2011 Ford Mustang GT (stock) Blue_Tires Mar 2013 #240

104 mph on a highway in northern France bif Mar 2013 #242

About 125... triguy46 Mar 2013 #247

Not the fastest, but the funnest... triguy46 Mar 2013 #248

Are those "kit cars" made from old Volkswagens? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #249

No. Spec Racer Fords triguy46 Mar 2013 #270

Curious, why use bias ply tires? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #272

They're wide, slightly grooved, but shaved down triguy46 Mar 2013 #281

130 something. TexasTowelie Mar 2013 #251

1974 Monte Carlo - did it have the driver's seat that swiveled? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #259

No, it didn't have a swivel seat. TexasTowelie Mar 2013 #265

Are you positive? I discovered by accident. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #269

Took my old Yamaha 750 special 117 Spike89 Mar 2013 #253

I drove my Dad's Ambassador with a 360 4bbl - dat was cool ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #266

The AMC 360 engine was fast, but flawed Spike89 Mar 2013 #283

Alot of AMC's stuff was flawed ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #284

Yup, they didn't have the resources Spike89 Mar 2013 #285

"if they just concentrated on affordable small cars" ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #288

Dunno--never got ALL the way up to top speed... pinboy3niner Mar 2013 #254

"All these other cars kept runnin' into me" - LOL, frigadee LOL ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #261

About 95 tabbycat31 Mar 2013 #256

Forward direction: 115-ish... Reverse direction; 55 mph in an F-350 Earth_First Mar 2013 #264

HOW did you do 55 in reverse ?? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #267

Well for one, it wasn't a sustained 55 mph... Earth_First Mar 2013 #268

Spinout in a plow truck! wow . ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #273

105-110 mph in an old clunker 65 Dodge Coronet Convertible on a bumpy back road in Western PA Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #275

"Old clunker" doing 110, that's impressive! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #278

that was more than 40 years ago - so I don't really remember Douglas Carpenter Mar 2013 #279

318 most likely, Coronet was a light car, 318 most common engine back then. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #280

. ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #282

At least.... AnneD Mar 2013 #286

What is the point of having a youth if you don't spend a little of it? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #287

I wish it had been a rag top..... AnneD Mar 2013 #289

"No husband ever got shot doing the dishes" - LOL ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #291

Native Texas Women .... AnneD Mar 2013 #292

How odd is that! ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #293

I am sure you can vouch for the truth in my comments.... AnneD Mar 2013 #298

I know that now - but then again ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #299

You can add a new verse to ... AnneD Mar 2013 #300

1:00 am SB 15 betweenTemecula and Escondido - 105mph in an '85 Ford Ranger. haele Mar 2013 #290

120 in a '69 Firebird LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #294

something like this? ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #301

On a sliding scale, it would be slightly closer to the junker n/t LadyHawkAZ Mar 2013 #302

LOL - I get it ConcernedCanuk Mar 2013 #303

130 or so BootinUp Mar 2013 #304