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white_wolf

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12. I agree, but it seems many leftists don't.
Mon May 28, 2012, 05:35 PM
May 2012

I sometimes wonder how many supposed Marxists have actually read Marx when I hear stuff like "religious goes against Marxist materialism." No, it doesn't. Marx's materialism was historical materialism, the idea that economic factors and class struggle are the driving force being society. That is not at all the same as ontological materialism, which is a philosophical view that the material world is the only thing that exists. I'm sure everyone who knows the difference, because the DU socialist community seems far more knowledgeable about actual socialism than the sectarian idiots over at Revleft.

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This message was self-deleted by its author Confusious May 2012 #1
??????????????????? JDPriestly May 2012 #2
Was there a question in there or did your cat get on the keyboard? Starry Messenger May 2012 #3
Having traveled to China long ago Mosaic May 2012 #4
This does keep coming up............. socialist_n_TN May 2012 #5
I hear it from students too, so it's getting taught this way on purpose. Starry Messenger May 2012 #6
And it is the way it is taught in civics classes. Odin2005 May 2012 #19
You get to keep your stuff and your religion. white_wolf May 2012 #7
My answer is that the early Bolshevik Party........ socialist_n_TN May 2012 #11
I agree, but it seems many leftists don't. white_wolf May 2012 #12
I think some folks on RevLeft just went through Marx with a hilighter pen Starry Messenger May 2012 #14
When I was still a Catholic, there social-justice teachings was what drew me to them. white_wolf May 2012 #15
During the October Revolution.......... socialist_n_TN May 2012 #16
I know a bunch of those kind of "Marxists" on campus, here. Odin2005 May 2012 #20
Awesome. limpyhobbler May 2012 #8
Good thread. I suspect that when people think "property" they are thinking about homes and small jwirr May 2012 #9
Thank you jwirr! Starry Messenger May 2012 #10
Even the family farms in states like Iowa are huge and run like factory farms. Here in Minnesota jwirr May 2012 #13
My boss's in-laws own an organic farm up in the McIntosh area. Odin2005 May 2012 #21
There is a huge distinction between personal property and private property in Marxism Taverner May 2012 #17
I get sick of correcting the "socialists want to take away my stuff" thing. Odin2005 May 2012 #18
expropriate the nation's candlestick makers BOG PERSON May 2012 #22
I take a tallow view of such shenanigans. nt Starry Messenger May 2012 #23
LOL! What a "flame" Starry........ socialist_n_TN May 2012 #24
:D Starry Messenger May 2012 #25
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