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Human101948

(3,457 posts)
21. Certainly not trying to be an obtuse denialist...
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jun 2016

Just don't think that xenophobia was the only reason. Other people agree in their assessments.

What has certainly happened is that decades of globalization, deregulation, and policy changes that favored the wealthy have left Britain a more unequal place, with vast regional disparities. “It’s the shape of our long lasting and deeply entrenched national geographic inequality that drove differences in voting patterns,” Torsten Bell, the director of the Resolution Foundation, a bipartisan think tank, commented on Friday morning. “The legacy of increased national inequality in the 1980s, the heavy concentration of those costs in certain areas, and our collective failure to address it has more to say about what happened last night than shorter term considerations from the financial crisis or changed migration flows.”

That argument sounds persuasive to me. On Thursday night, it was the early announcement of a huge Leave vote in Sunderland, a depressed city in the Northeast that used to be a big shipbuilding center, that indicated the way the night was headed and caused the pound sterling to plummet in the Asian markets. Meanwhile, the Remain vote was consistently stronger in prosperous areas. Economics matters.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/john-cassidy/why-the-remain-campaign-lost-the-brexit-vote?mbid=nl_160625_Daily&CNDID=27694289&spMailingID=9111072&spUserID=MTE0MTYzMzk5ODg3S0&spJobID=942410256&spReportId=OTQyNDEwMjU2S0
I believe you PF JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #1
Let me guess; this happened in England or Wales. AllTooEasy Jun 2016 #27
actually london PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #45
I hope your friend is okay. I have been reading a number of stories of non-anglos being attacked niyad Jun 2016 #2
she is pretty strong PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #7
This American woman had a similar experience, came up with an interesting campaign: auntpurl Jun 2016 #37
Trump gets a lot of passes and excuses made for his voters too. The denial is deep Person 2713 Jun 2016 #3
Anecdotes certainly prove that there is no other reason behind the BREXIT votes... Human101948 Jun 2016 #5
No, and thanks for being glib Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #12
There can be more than one fucking reason for people voting leave. Claiming that xenophobia Chakab Jun 2016 #19
Certainly not trying to be an obtuse denialist... Human101948 Jun 2016 #21
The heads of the leave campaign exploited concerns about economic insecurity and systemic equality Chakab Jun 2016 #22
No argument there... Human101948 Jun 2016 #24
So we should ignore blatant racism? DonRedwood Jun 2016 #25
Even the anger over the consequences of neoliberal policies gets directed toward tblue37 Jun 2016 #35
Nothing scares a racist white anglo more than Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #10
And, sometimes, even other white people - if they have an accent. forest444 Jun 2016 #28
LOL ... at least the transaction began with a smiling greeting. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #30
You take what you can get, I suppose. forest444 Jun 2016 #32
LOL. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #34
"He's from Barcelona . . . . . " no_hypocrisy Jun 2016 #6
I've been aware of the xenophobia PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #9
i am sorry your friend is experiencing that. drray23 Jun 2016 #8
Actually, it's the opposite TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #15
"A few people here believe that you can't reduce Brexit to nothing "but" racism and xenophobia." Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #18
Just more bullshit. TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #23
Whatever. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #40
You really don't see the problem with your apologia for racism? ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #33
I'm not apologizing for racism! TexasMommaWithAHat Jun 2016 #38
you are seeing things that arent there PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #46
Sorry about your friend! LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #11
I'm leaving for my first ever visit to Britain on Sunday Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #13
I'm so sorry. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #14
I'd like to say it eas isolated incidents but it seems to be spreading PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #16
If you don't mind me asking, Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #17
London & Oxford Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #20
you will be fine there. drray23 Jun 2016 #26
You should be fine in large diverse "elitist" capital cities IronLionZion Jun 2016 #29
Scorn makes me chipper, I guess I'll survive that. ;) Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #31
No, you didn't come across as self-serving at all. Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #39
These are the two cities that I know best; and I think there's very little chance of problems LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #43
Very true. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #44
I'm so sorry that happened to your friend. auntpurl Jun 2016 #36
yep it's frustrating PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #41
... the next thing, Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #42
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