There are a few others in and around the Labour front bench I could see (Reply #43)

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Thu Dec 12, 2019, 06:12 PM

Denzil_DC (5,398 posts)

43. There are a few others in and around the Labour front bench I could see

as better options with potentially wider appeal, and Phillips is too abrasive to be an effective party leader in what will be an even more riven party, IMO.

Whoever it is, they'll be demonized. See Miliband, see Brown ... Stuff that appears not to stick to Tory bigwigs sticks to Labour politicians for some reason.

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BREAKING: BBC exit poll...BoJo 368 majority. GE OPEN THREAD [View all]	Soph0571	Dec 2019	OP
I concur, that's shocking.	OnDoutside	Dec 2019	#1
Sooo getting my Irish passport!	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#3
My sister works for the Irish passport service and they were flooded with enquiries after	OnDoutside	Dec 2019	#9
Seriously, I come from a traditional Unionist family	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#12
No harm to have both, as you are entitled to.	OnDoutside	Dec 2019	#19
Let's hope they got the same pollsters	Turbineguy	Dec 2019	#2
BBC are normally reasonably accurate	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#4
I understand they have promised	Turbineguy	Dec 2019	#10
Heh	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#13
Polls seem to be losing accuracy with each big election...	VarryOn	Dec 2019	#54
And Corbyn ran on health care	RandySF	Dec 2019	#5
Yeah he did. But this was a Brexit Eelection....	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#6
Yes, those decades of dumbing down education and news has	OnDoutside	Dec 2019	#22
How secure is the voting system?	2naSalit	Dec 2019	#7
This is for real	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#8
Pretty secure - this is paper ballot voting	muriel_volestrangler	Dec 2019	#14
Thanks.	2naSalit	Dec 2019	#16
If it does pan out as predicted, it's a poison chalice.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#11
The only comfort is that he could block of the ERG no brexit bollocks	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#15
I'm still going to wait for the actual results.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#20
Andrew Marr just made a good point...	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#23
Well, if all this is true, the majority in those seats have bought into Johnson's nonsense,	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#31
It looks like Jo might be losing hers...	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#33
That wouldn't surprise me at all.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#36
I hate to say this...	BooScout	Dec 2019	#17
I agree...they turned their leadership election..	VarryOn	Dec 2019	#55
Ugh.	geardaddy	Dec 2019	#18
I wonder if Jo Swinson will lose her seat	muriel_volestrangler	Dec 2019	#21
That will be one of the more interesting calls of the night	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#24
The Guardian is catching up with us	muriel_volestrangler	Dec 2019	#28
Bloody hell	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#30
Of that lot, I'd particularly love Dumfries and Galloway to go SNP (or anyone else).	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#35
Ugh. Alistair Jack holds Dumfries & Galloway.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#78
I'm really sorry. This is incredibly disastrous.	Mike 03	Dec 2019	#25
I actually am sitting here with a knot in my stomach on this.	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#26
They are predicting that Corbym will have a worse defeat than Micheal Foot.	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#27
this is a preview of our 2020 election	AlexSFCA	Dec 2019	#29
I wish I didn't agree with you, Alex. But I do.	hedda_foil	Dec 2019	#44
It is a warning sign, that's for sure.	mwooldri	Dec 2019	#50
Doh!	StrictlyRockers	Dec 2019	#32
Good lord, what the hell is going on?	Afromania	Dec 2019	#34
People do not like Corbyn and don't trust him. So much so that many voted for a buffoon.	RelativelyJones	Dec 2019	#37
Nick Cohen on Jess Phillips...	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#38
Jess Phillips is extremely impressive.	Mike 03	Dec 2019	#39
She kicks arse	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#41
I've no idea why Cohen thinks Phillips might be a winner.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#40
Maybe they will see the light... move back to centre Left and vote in a woman	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#42
There are a few others in and around the Labour front bench I could see	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#43
Maybe abrasive is what they need right now	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#45
Do you like Alison McGovern at all?	Mike 03	Dec 2019	#48
Maybe. I've always found her too scattershot, and she has a bad reputation as a team player,	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#51
Blythe Valley to the Tory's	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#60
I'll be staying up for the bulk of the Scottish results.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#61
Workington went Tory	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#63
...	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#66
Fucking hell	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#67
Many here complained about Tony Blair being too conservative	Polybius	Dec 2019	#76
Puke Alert: BBC World Service interviewing Farage.	Mike 03	Dec 2019	#46
Now brexit is gone he is going to start the 'reform' party	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#49
Unhappy but not surprised.	mwooldri	Dec 2019	#47
I wrote an article about this being 1983 all over again	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#52
The Tory's have taken Blythe Valley	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#53
They say whole areas have turned . Sunderland reduced	lunasun	Dec 2019	#57
These results are terrible	Kitchari	Dec 2019	#56
People tend towards authoritarianism	cilla4progress	Dec 2019	#58
I'm glad I went to GB when it was sane	kimbutgar	Dec 2019	#59
This is the 2nd referendum and we have lost	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#62
I think a major part of this....	T_i_B	Dec 2019	#83
Oh shit!	BigmanPigman	Dec 2019	#64
The democrats need to learn the lessons from this	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#65
Nigel Dodds has been given the boot in North Belfast	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#68
Zac Goldsmith loses to the Lib Dems in Richmond Park.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#69
Caroline Flint out in Don Valley	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#70
By the end she was a hardcore Brexiteer	T_i_B	Dec 2019	#80
Jo Swinson loses her seat.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#71
posted at the same time on this	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#73
SNP partisanship aside, I think it's no secret I never rated Swinson.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#75
SNP now up to 35 seats out of 38 declared, so 50+ doesn't seem to be out of the question.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#77
I think she would have been forced out if she held her seat	T_i_B	Dec 2019	#82
Maybe. I heard noises before she lost her seat that they might stick with her for the long haul.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#84
No point in just saying "we are the party of remain"	T_i_B	Dec 2019	#87
Considering this has been billed as "The Brexit Election", the level of debate has been appalling.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#88
Very true	T_i_B	Dec 2019	#89
It's not about debate, it's all about propaganda.	Ghost Dog	Dec 2019	#94
Unsurprising Labour hold in Edinburgh South by Ian Murray.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#79
Final tally in Scotland:	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#86
Jo Swinson is out by a whisker	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#72
Apparently Scotland and much of Northern Ireland is sending the UK	MarcA	Dec 2019	#74
Already I hear Scottish separatist voices advocating	Ghost Dog	Dec 2019	#95
I now have a Tory MP again	T_i_B	Dec 2019	#81
Labour retain Sheffield Hallam	T_i_B	Dec 2019	#85
The Beast of Bolsover is no more	T_i_B	Dec 2019	#90
I heard he was too ill to campaign, which won't have helped.	Denzil_DC	Dec 2019	#91
It's not the only issue	T_i_B	Dec 2019	#92
Sadly, the harbinger of much bad coming Britain's way	Pachamama	Dec 2019	#93
Tories held Winchester - majority down from 10,000 to 1,000	muriel_volestrangler	Dec 2019	#96
Full list of all the MPs who have lost their seats	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#97
No way back for defecting MPs as all 11 fail in bid to win re-election	Soph0571	Dec 2019	#98

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