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Hillary Clinton
In reply to the discussion: Here is a perfect way to screw your candidate in a primary EDITED [View all]hrc guy
(73 posts)83. Gary Legum had it before the primaries even started
Wednesday, Dec 2, 2015 12:45 PM EDT
Bernie supporters could blow this election: Why refusing to vote for Hillary Clinton will only make everything worse
The political left has been tearing itself up of late with a rousing game of Who Wants to Be the Most Liberal Liberal Ever To Liberal, much in the same way it seems to each and every election cycle. The current battle, between supporters of Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, would be much more entertaining if the arguments for and against both campaigns werent variations on the same tired leftier-than-thou rhetoric and blind loyalty that were worn out even before Ralph Nader threw his rumpled corduroy blazer over his shoulder and slunk off into the humid Florida night.
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I recall a debate that year about whether true liberals should vote for Nader because, in his formulation, there was not a dimes worth of difference between the two major-party candidates, Al Gore and George W. Bush. I recall email blasts from at least one acquaintance in a toss-up state trying to interest his friends in states that were safely for Gore in a voting trade of sorts, whereby one of us would cast our vote for Nader; in return, our friend would cast his vote for Gore. The thinking was that this would preserve a Democratic victory in both states while also registering liberal protests at the centrist drift of the party.
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Now, 15 years later, does anyone want to argue that there was not a dimes worth of difference between the potential Gore administration and the clusterfuckery that we got with Bush? Because if you do, my family owns some swampland er, I mean highly prized and valuable real estate in Florida that we would be happy to sell you.
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/02/bernie_supports_could_blow_this_election_why_refusing_to_vote_for_hillary_clinton_will_only_make_things_worse/
Will the Sandersnistas, in effect, vote for Nader this November by staying home?
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Looks like she tried to get people to not vote for Martha Coakley in the special election...
CreekDog
Jan 2016
#65
Further proving the fact that Bernie and his supporters wish to damage the Democratic brand
Sheepshank
Jan 2016
#9
Both Bernie and the Democratic Party would be better off. There could have been substantive issues
freshwest
Jan 2016
#19
I know so many places Bernie "would be if..." but I can't seem to pin down where he actually is.
kjones
Jan 2016
#46
Very, very good paranoia from a guy paid to be filmed... I always think it's this one, though...
freshwest
Jan 2016
#29
Naw, it's a business strategy. She's not worried about anything but the bottom line. n/t
freshwest
Jan 2016
#30
It is really, REALLY scary that there are people in this country like this.....
George II
Jan 2016
#25
So they have no hope for BS's grassroots campaign in the Dem primary that he entered?
Cha
Jan 2016
#32
Juror #4 is exactly right.. "The only thing I can imagine is "alert stalking"." For a "cheap
Cha
Jan 2016
#43
But they get thousands of adolescents at rallies and tens of thousands of mouse clicks in "polls"!
George II
Jan 2016
#47
My dose of calm will be when Hillary becomes our next President of the United States.
William769
Jan 2016
#56