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Hillary Clinton

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ladym55

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Sat Apr 16, 2016, 11:40 AM Apr 2016

HILLARY CLINTON GROUP: Reality Check [View all]

As I watch the Sanders campaign go completely off the rails, I get sad and frustrated. Just this morning as I caught up on two days of Reader Supported News, I learned that Hillary's free trade policies support money laundering in Panama, Hillary has supported EVERY WAR EVER, and Elizabeth Warren thinks Paul Krugman is an idiot. (Well, I'm rephrasing and exaggerating a bit, but the basic idea is there.) So once the smoke clears and the Bern finally figures out the math of the nomination, we are left with an entire group of progressive Democrats who have been fed non-stop rat poison by visible and vocal progressives: Thom Hartmann, John Nichols, Robert Reich, Randi Rhodes, Reader Supported News, Truthout .... you name it, if it's "progressive," it's a BERNIE outlet and a Hillary hater. There are some noted exceptions, and those are people I continue to respect, like John Fugelsang. He supports Bernie, but says over and over that we all need to support our nominee--no questions asked. But as Karl Rove smugly pointed out, the Rethugs just need to let the left destroy the Democratic Party, and it's doing a damned good job of it.

Bernie is an outlier--filled with ideas and posturings. I suspect he ran because he wanted to get some really progressive economic ideas in the discussion, but then things took off, and Bernie just plain wasn't ready and is not cut out for the spotlight. He is very good at putting forth legislation that goes absolutely nowhere so he can take a stand, but THAT is not governing. Governing is actually making things happen, which is why Hillary is so good and such a threat. She knows how to get things done. They may not be perfect, but they are a steps of improvement. Is the ACA perfect? No. But it is light years ahead of where we were. Wouldn't single payer be awesome? Yes. But it will take years and steps to get there. Last thing we need is a bunch of Bernie bros and babes sitting home and sulking in November (cuz their precious pumpkin progressive great minds told them that Hillary is JUST LIKE CRUZ AND TRUMP) so we end up with either the disaster of Trump or the disaster of Ted Cruz or even the disaster of Paul Ryan.

I am just sick and tired of the childish behavior I'm seeing from people I used to respect. Ideological purity works great for books, but not for governing. We all need to be thinking about how we get moving after the nomination and get Hillary elected AND all Dems in office, so she has a legislature that functions.

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+1 Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #1
I'm also shocked that they believe these tactics win people over to their sides. IamMab Apr 2016 #2
k & r LAS14 Apr 2016 #3
K & R revmclaren Apr 2016 #4
We are out-voting them!! Her Sister Apr 2016 #5
Keep telling me this! ladym55 Apr 2016 #9
It's so cool really! Her Sister Apr 2016 #12
And now I see BSers gleefully denigrating Hillary about Monica Lewinsky. Laurian Apr 2016 #6
You know when BSer's are plumbing the depths of the VRWC freeper shit workinclasszero Apr 2016 #8
The end is near and they KNOW IT! Maru Kitteh Apr 2016 #21
Good post! pandr32 Apr 2016 #7
K&R! DemonGoddess Apr 2016 #10
An angry mob mentality Legends303 Apr 2016 #11
You are so right, Legends303! brer cat Apr 2016 #24
Republicans have every intention of helping a Leftwing version of the Tea Party happen... KittyWampus Apr 2016 #13
Yes, they would love to see the TP curse in our party, it has cursed them. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #28
Dismissive prima donnas. Basic LA Apr 2016 #14
I am constantly amused and dismayed... yallerdawg Apr 2016 #15
It is ironic that Bernie Haveadream Apr 2016 #16
K&R!!! COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #17
K&R. Well stated! HillareeeHillaraah Apr 2016 #18
K & R most enthusiastically. Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #19
K&R Thanks for posting SharonClark Apr 2016 #20
The bigest "low" is seeing supposed Dems here at DU cheering on the protestors Lucinda Apr 2016 #22
It must be terribly difficult for them to understand that spooky3 Apr 2016 #26
Favorite part savalez Apr 2016 #23
The irony is that many of them are NOT ideologically pure. spooky3 Apr 2016 #25
Did you know that Hillary is actually Helen of Troy? She started that war too. And don't Squinch Apr 2016 #27
The denial is running high this Sunday AM liberal N proud Apr 2016 #29
The closer we get to the NY Primary, the more frantic redstateblues Apr 2016 #30
K&R Gothmog Apr 2016 #31
I think some of them are venting their anger over the system. wisteria Apr 2016 #32
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