Hillary Clinton

Perogie

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18. If polls predicted winners then why did Hillary lose in 2008?

Tue Oct 6, 2015, 03:49 PM

Oct 2015

In September 2007 approx 16 weeks before Iowa Caucus Hillary held a 41.8 to 23 lead over Barack.
In November 2007 approx eight weeks before the Iowa Caucus Hillary increased that lead to 46 to 23 over Barack.
Jan 1, 2008 two days before the Iowa Caucus Hillary led 44.2 to 25 over Barack.

How did she not win the primary if as you seem to indicate it's all about leading in the polls?

Polls are about name recognition and Polls are nation wide. What matters is who's leading in Iowa and New Hampshire.

Iowa Poll Oct, 2015 with Biden / without Biden
Clinton 33, Sanders 28, Biden 22 / Clinton 47, Sanders 36

New Hampshire Sept, 2015
Sanders 42, Clinton 28, Biden 18
Note that in June, 2015 Clinton was leading Sanders by nearly 20 points and after 3 months Sanders now holds a 14 point lead.

The more people see and hear Bernie the more he moves up in the polls.

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Hillary Surges in Reuters Tracking Poll [View all] SunShine22 Oct 2015 OP

As of Friday October 2nd, it's Clinton 58%, Biden 19% and Sanders 17%. workinclasszero Oct 2015 #1

Why would you want Bernie fans to 'weep'? byronius Oct 2015 #12

Yeah come here and castigate the 10 Hillary supporters left on DU workinclasszero Oct 2015 #14

I ain't castigating no one. byronius Oct 2015 #21

I thought DU purged all Hillary supporters comradebillyboy Oct 2015 #16

Uh, Skinner's avatar is a Hillary icon, I believe. byronius Oct 2015 #22

Can I borrow something from Bernie supporters? upaloopa Oct 2015 #2

Whoops... yallerdawg Oct 2015 #3

But... but... but... cooties! shenmue Oct 2015 #4

Or, as Reuters themselves put it: Sanders can't break through against Clinton. riversedge Oct 2015 #5

Way to keep it steady FloridaBlues Oct 2015 #6

But..but..."big crowds"...... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #8

Sometimes I think it's the same 10,000 people following him around... ConservativeDemocrat Oct 2015 #19

You mean like Nomads? The Grateful Dead is an apt comparison. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #20

The Problem With Big Crowds, Tarheel.. Cha Oct 2015 #31

Do you ever wonder why good news for Hillary is never the lead story on M$M? nt Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #32

I don't have M$M in my life... Where I hang out.. there's a lot of good news for Hillary! Cha Oct 2015 #34

Whoa! Starry Messenger Oct 2015 #30

BM's enid602 Oct 2015 #7

K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #9

What's that old line... Plucketeer Oct 2015 #10

Yeah, BS better watch out. This is Hillary's Group. Cha Oct 2015 #23

Here's some more "old lines" for ya.... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #33

Woo Hooo!!! Go Hillary!!! lunamagica Oct 2015 #11

I dont blame Hillary supporters for rubbing Bern supporters nose in this Keep-Left Oct 2015 #13

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #15

Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #17

You're wrong.. too bad you don't understand anything about her. Advocating not voting for Cha Oct 2015 #24

If polls predicted winners then why did Hillary lose in 2008? Perogie Oct 2015 #18

This is Hillary's Group.. The more people hear about what BS is really like and that all he does Cha Oct 2015 #25

Bernie's no Barack Obama Plucketeer Oct 2015 #26

He couldn't be if he tried.. President Obama gets things done. Bernie not so much. Cha Oct 2015 #28

Which is why BS will never get the nomination, because he'll never get the Obama coalition. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #36

Barack Obama had what BS has failed to capture. "DIVERSITY". He won't be the nominee. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2015 #35

Time for some forum housekeeping..... Historic NY Oct 2015 #27

It's Done.. thanks HistoricNY Cha Oct 2015 #29