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BlueMTexpat

(15,665 posts)
29. I have no problems with you!
Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:05 AM
Mar 2016
I have never seen you post deliberate slurs against any candidate. If Hillary had not run in 2016, I would have been a MOM supporter myself as he was my guv.

While I believe that your predictions may be a tad generous to Sanders overall in light of the strong polling for Hillary where polls exist, they are as good guesstimates as any and you have given good reasons for them.

But even your final results highlight the bottom line problem for Sanders. Already Clinton has 200+ delegates and the results you predict will only increase that margin.

In later primaries - unless there is a sea change somewhere - Bernie will likely win in the Pacific Northwest (I include MT in that, btw), but Hillary will still pick up delegates and most likely meet, possibly even exceed, her target goals per 538 projections. Despite Tulsi Gabbard's defection to Bernie, I believe that Hillary will win in HI because she is closely tied to Prez O and Prez O is very popular in his birth state. I understand that Gabbard is not nearly as popular.

Per the 538 target goals, Hillary can afford losses in WI, WY and UT. She can even afford not to meet her TGs there. Bernie cannot. In EVERY state he wins, he MUST also achieve the TG #s in delegates. If not, he falls further and further behind - even with the wins. If he does not exceed those TGs, it's literally all over. Hillary will do very well in most of the remaining states; all she has to do is to meet the 538 TGs. Bernie MUST win.

March 15th will be pretty telling. If Hillary has an outstanding day and exceeds the numbers that you predict for her, then the rest of the primary season will be mostly about her winning margin. If she merely meets her TGs, it's much the same. Only if she loses everywhere - and even then by large margins - would there be any possibility for Bernie's campaign to catch up in pledged delegates.

While that could still happen, it is highly unlikely. But it doesn't mean that any of us who support HRC can rest on our laurels, like those MI voters who thought Hillary would win and so voted in the GOPer primary instead. Every vote counts. And our candidate will not take any one for granted.

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Missouri seems to be a black hole of polling, no one knows who is doing what there. I think.... George II Mar 2016 #1
Right? MO is the big unknown Recursion Mar 2016 #2
I'm in Missouri, and I really don't Loki Mar 2016 #3
Polling has been gone since August, right? Recursion Mar 2016 #4
Nothing, but right now 11 of the 13 Super Delegates Loki Mar 2016 #15
Loki, like your son did, I wish more voters would pause and take a closer look at Bernie. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #7
That was his biggest turning point and he was a big Bernie supporter. Loki Mar 2016 #22
My son came to the same conclusion. yardwork Mar 2016 #25
I think your analysis is right on. kstewart33 Mar 2016 #5
MO will be quite interesting (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #6
Good job and pleased to meet you! pandr32 Mar 2016 #8
I think NC is a hair more liberal than Tennessee CanonRay Mar 2016 #9
NC I think is solid Clinton; IL is to me the big question Recursion Mar 2016 #10
As you know Recusion this is Hillary's Group.. not really interested in anyone in here Cha Mar 2016 #14
'Scuse me for trying to be rational CanonRay Mar 2016 #16
You do have the whole rest of the board. What is it about Hillary's Group for her supporters Cha Mar 2016 #18
Was I hoping for that? (nt) Recursion Mar 2016 #23
I was talking about bringing others in .. BS supporters. I already explained Cha Mar 2016 #27
Got it. I'll leave it at this thread Recursion Mar 2016 #30
I'm not worried.. just setting the boundaries. Anyone would do that. Cha Mar 2016 #31
I vote to let him stay. At least we can talk to him. yardwork Mar 2016 #26
I'm not going to block Recursion.. just wanted to remind him that this is our Group for Cha Mar 2016 #28
That's cool. That's how we roll. yardwork Mar 2016 #37
Well, I hope not. 'this is Hillary's Group for her Supporters. Thank you. Cha Mar 2016 #13
I have a different take on Ohio dcbuckeye Mar 2016 #11
Huh. It's an interesting thought. Recursion Mar 2016 #12
Good point about Kasich. I hope you're right. yardwork Mar 2016 #20
Yeah, Kasich's presence will be really interesting... Recursion Mar 2016 #24
I feel good about FL, NC & IL book_worm Mar 2016 #17
Ohio is a tad more centrist Treant Mar 2016 #39
Welcome to our world, and thank you for the thoughtful analysis. yardwork Mar 2016 #19
Could well be. So much of this polling is weak Recursion Mar 2016 #21
I have no problems with you! BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #29
Very fair analysis rock Mar 2016 #32
That's a fair point Recursion Mar 2016 #33
I'm sorry you are catching flack from the vocal majority. Lucinda Mar 2016 #34
I'm sticking with 538. eom fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #35
Are the 538 targets campaign generated, or is that 548's analysis? LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #36
538 generates Treant Mar 2016 #40
I think the margins will be wider in NC and MO. Chichiri Mar 2016 #38
Welcome, from another O'Malley supporter. DavidDvorkin Mar 2016 #41
Remember this about ohio dcbuckeye Mar 2016 #42
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