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MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
23. After what happened in 2000
Sun Mar 13, 2016, 10:06 AM
Mar 2016

anyone advocating this is either too young to remember what happened or has a short memory.

But Democrats always do this stupid stuff. In 1992, the economy was a disaster. After 8 successful years, we got fat and happy. Surely the Republicans couldn't ruin everything again. Then here comes Ralph Nader. He's saying things we like. Screw it, Al Gore is too moderate. I'm going with the hippy, because Gore is just a corporatist.

Everyone remembers Florida, because the election was stolen there by the Bush brothers. Yes, if the Nader voters had voted for Gore, he would have won Florida. But on the other hand, that state was always going to be tough because you can bet even if Gore had come out ahead, the state Republican apparatus was going to create a mess and try to cheat.

But New Hampshire...that one red dot in a sea of northeastern blue. That was because of Nader. He got almost 4% of the vote in a state Gore lost by a little over a percentage point. Because, screw it...right. Gore wasn't perfect. So a pox on all their houses.

And that got us:

1) largest terrorist attack on US soil. Now, I'm not one to blame Bush for that, but I do know Al Gore would have taken it more seriously.
2) 2 wars, unpaid for. Thousands of dead American soldiers.
3) ISIS. Because those morons in the Bush administration somehow didn't realize that disbanding the Iraqi Army was a bad idea.
4) New Orleans abandoned by the federal government.
5) We didn't get stem cell research for 8 years. Now we're making all these breakthroughs, they could have happened a decade ago. How many people could have been positively impacted?
6) We had to deal with no climate change policy. How much damage was done to the earth?
7) Total economic collapse.

And I'm sure I'm missing other things.

But Obama, who is far from perfect, largely because he's human like everyone else, has done a lot to alleviate that. We are at full employment, the economy is growing. There are still problems. Wages are stagnant, debt is still a major issue.

So what do we do? We see a small minority threaten to once again say a pox on all their houses. Why? Because the Democratic candidate is not perfect on every issue...which makes her the same as a Republican...somehow. So they'll vote for the green party, naively.

They'll let the perfect be the enemy of the good, again. And you know what they'll get?

1) A Republican appointing 2 or 3 Supreme Court justices. Forget Row v. Wade...and choice, it'll be gone.
2) The environment will get destroyed as the EPA doesn't regulate anything.
3) They'll repeal Obamacare, and we'll lose healthcare coverage for millions that have been helped. People will die.
4) They'll start some war you haven't even thought of yet, because Republicans always do that.
5) They'll cut taxes for the wealthiest Americans. They'll lower corporate taxes. The deficits will grow out of control while the income gap widens.

But what the hell....none of that matters. Hillary gave a speech on Wall Street and didn't release the transcripts. THAT'S what really matters.

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Can you imagine... [View all] quickesst Mar 2016 OP
Nope. Aristus Mar 2016 #1
No. But I'm a Democrat. nt SunSeeker Mar 2016 #2
The HRC v BS contest ... NanceGreggs Mar 2016 #3
Good morning... quickesst Mar 2016 #17
That is for sure pandr32 Mar 2016 #30
No, because I'm not insane, arrogant and completely narcissistic. PeaceNikki Mar 2016 #4
Well said, PeaceNikki. brer cat Mar 2016 #21
Amen to that! Nt AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #26
Me, too SharonClark Mar 2016 #32
I honestly can't imagine anyone left of "insane" doing so kjones Mar 2016 #5
I care about my country and the people in it more than my pride. shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #6
I won't because I would think about my family shadowandblossom Mar 2016 #8
Who would be so pouty & spoiled? Basic LA Mar 2016 #7
Those that really care about the country will come around. Chichiri Mar 2016 #9
yes next president could choose up to 4 SCOTUS!! Her Sister Mar 2016 #16
I've been voting Democratic Blue Idaho Mar 2016 #10
Those Who do not remember the past Haveadream Mar 2016 #11
there is truth to your statement... artyteacher Mar 2016 #14
Truth, reason, responsibility. brer cat Mar 2016 #22
Me, too! Haveadream Mar 2016 #24
Nope, but as I've said on here many times book_worm Mar 2016 #12
No way! Democrats don't think that way. leftofcool Mar 2016 #13
Some have been banned for advocating voting for other than the Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #15
And in my opinion... quickesst Mar 2016 #18
Yes, I like the mission statement about electing Democrats. Thinkingabout Mar 2016 #19
..... quickesst Mar 2016 #20
After what happened in 2000 MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #23
What you said, MSMITH33156 Haveadream Mar 2016 #25
It was more than Nader cannabis_flower Mar 2016 #27
Absolutely MSMITH33156 Mar 2016 #31
I can't wrap my head around the Bernie or bust movement. I don't understand these people. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #28
No. yardwork Mar 2016 #29
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