Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Hillary Clinton

Showing Original Post only (View all)

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
Thu Mar 24, 2016, 11:19 AM Mar 2016

Traditionally, the losing candidates endorse the party's nominee [View all]

Most of what I've seen leads me to believe that will be the case this time around. But take a look at how Sanders' addressed a question about that on TYT yesterday:

Uyger: But! You have convinced them that Hillary Clinton is the establishment candidate. If you were to lose, and the Democratic Party comes to you and says, "Okay, now take this movement, that is full of energy and is against the establishment, and make sure they vote for the establishment candidate," what do you say?

Sanders: Well, you know, what I say— Number One, I'm not big into [air quotes] being a leader. You know, I much prefer to see a lot of leaders, a lot of grassroots activism. Number Two, what we do is together, as a nation, as a growing movement, is we say, "All right, if we don't win"—and, by the way, we are in this thing to win; please understand that—"what is the Democratic establishment gonna do for us?"

Uyger: Oh, that's interesting.

Sanders: All right, for example: Right now, you have a Democratic establishment which has written off half the states in this country, you know that?

Uyger: Mm-hmm.

Sanders: And they've given up on the slate in the South, the Rocky Mountain area—are they gonna create a 50-state party? Are they gonna welcome into the Democratic Party the working class of this country and young people, or is it gonna be a party of the upper middle class and the cocktail crowd and the heavy campaign contributors? Which to a significant degree it is right now. You know, I've talked to Democratic Party leaders and said, "You know what? Instead of going around and raising all kinds of money from wealthy people, why don'tcha meet in some football stadium and bring out fifty, a hundred thousand people; bring the damn Senate in there, Senate Democrats, and start talking to people—ask them what they want you to do. How about that?" Better? Radical? So, in other words, if I can't make it, and we're gonna try as hard as we can 'til the last vote is cast, we wanna completely revitalize the Democratic Party, and make it a party of the people, rather than just one of large campaign contributors.

http://www.shakesville.com/2016/03/this-is-getting-real-old-sanders.html


There's a ton to unpack right there (He's running for leader of the free world but isn't into being a leader?), but I don't see word one about any support for the eventual nominee. Melissa's take down at the link is excellent.

As part of Hillary's "cocktail crowd", I naturally recoil at the notion of governing via stadium mob. Is that really where he plans to take his revolutionaries? He has just folded the significant Democratic majorities that already voted for Hillary Clinton into the opposition to his Movement. Of course, it's all as vague as his plans for an encampment beneath McConnell's window, but there isn't even a whiff of party unity in there. What am I missing?
50 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Sanders should also go and campaign for Hillary. FarPoint Mar 2016 #1
He's not into being a leader... LisaM Mar 2016 #12
Noticed that too Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2016 #22
He could make a difference in the future... FarPoint Mar 2016 #23
No, he's setting up an excuse for not endorsing. KitSileya Mar 2016 #2
I think the cheering crowds, rather than a means to an end, Rose Siding Mar 2016 #9
Bingo! Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #18
Very true, and very sad bellicosecello Mar 2016 #42
He's setting up for a Naderesque run in the general. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #32
I don't understand him romana Mar 2016 #3
Right? LisaM Mar 2016 #14
You hit that one. LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #44
He seriously confuses Republicans with Democrats. yallerdawg Mar 2016 #4
Thank you jehop61 Mar 2016 #5
This one-on-one interview just brought it home... Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #19
I suspect you are missing nothing ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #6
Right! LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #45
In my fantasy political world ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #46
Didn't Obama? LiberalFighter Mar 2016 #47
Shhh ... Yes, he did ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #48
"Revitalize the Democratic Party"??? otohara Mar 2016 #7
Self-righteous dilettantes. Basic LA Mar 2016 #8
You nailed many in the 3 words of your title..... Tanuki Mar 2016 #25
I can't stand this man anymore. kjones Mar 2016 #10
You expressed it beautifully. LisaM Mar 2016 #13
What is worse, Bernie or his followers Jamie Mayfield Mar 2016 #16
Well said... Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #20
Thanks for simplifying bernie's entire life in a aptly worded paragraph misterhighwasted Mar 2016 #26
Stated with perfection. Dawson Leery Mar 2016 #27
"I'm not big into being a leader." johnp3907 Mar 2016 #11
"Number One, I'm not big into being a leader..." Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #15
It won't work Treant Mar 2016 #17
Early on, people like Michael Moore, Noam Chomsky signaled they will go with the nominee robbedvoter Mar 2016 #24
Bernie is a Quisling! He has no interest in helping the Democratic party. Walk away Mar 2016 #21
I do think Warren will work WITH Hillary. riversedge Mar 2016 #34
Absoutely! She will be part of a powerful team! Walk away Mar 2016 #36
We've givin up on half the states? He's the one who ignored most of the Southern book_worm Mar 2016 #28
I read that and just shook my head!! riversedge Mar 2016 #35
That not being into being a leader is downright scary liberal N proud Mar 2016 #29
I think Sander's ego is getting the better of him.nt sufrommich Mar 2016 #30
He's right. He's not a leader. He's an agitator. Bernie--Party Of One. LuvLoogie Mar 2016 #31
you just gave the perfect conclusion! Her Sister Mar 2016 #37
Nice otohara Mar 2016 #38
I was just going to post your OP.... riversedge Mar 2016 #33
He's "not big into being a leader"? jmowreader Mar 2016 #39
Makes you want to holler! Rose Siding Mar 2016 #40
"Number One, I'm not big into being a leader" DesertRat Mar 2016 #41
Disgusting all the way around SharonClark Mar 2016 #43
Once more: BERNIE'S NOT A DEMOCRAT charlyvi Mar 2016 #49
coup d'etat Her Sister Mar 2016 #50
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Hillary Clinton»Traditionally, the losing...»Reply #0