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In reply to the discussion: STOCK MARKET WATCH, Tuesday, December 13, 2011 [View all]Demeter
(85,373 posts)23. Sarkozy: “The Risk That Europe Will Explode”
http://www.testosteronepit.com/home/2011/12/8/sarkozy-the-risk-that-europe-will-explode.html
The Swiss government is preparing for a collapse of the euro, according to Swiss Finance Minister Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf. She told parliament that a work group was studying the imposition of capital controls and negative interest rates to protect Switzerland from the capital flight that a euro collapse would engender (Handelsblatt). A tidal wave of euros would drive up the Swiss franc, devastate Switzerlands export economy, and devalue its vast wealth invested in other countries. Already in August, the Swiss National Bank instituted a currency peg and swore to defend it by acquiring unlimited amounts of euros, a risky strategy if the euro were to collapse (for the debacle leading up to the peg, read... Swiss Franc Wreaks Havoc In Switzerland)...Europe has never been in so much danger, said French President Nicolas Sarkozy a few hours before the summit (Le Figaro). He worried about the risk that Europe will explode and urged that an agreement be found because there were only a few weeks left to make the decisions. He called for more solidarity, more discipline, and more governance within the Eurozone. An agreement on Friday is crucial, he said. We wont have a second chance....But Angela Merkels fiscal-union dictate of belt-tightening and central control over budgets isnt going down all that well elsewhere.
I dont have any support in Sweden for changing the treaty, said Fredrik Reinfeldt, Prime Minister of Sweden upon his arrival in Brussels (Le Figaro). Sweden is one of the 27 EU members but not in the 17-member Eurozone. To contain the debt crisis, he proposed instead the reinforcement of existing bailout funds and more IMF involvement...A new treaty cant be imposed, said Vivian Reding, Vice President of the European Commission (Le Figaro). Instead, measures should be implemented on the basis of existing treaties. She contended that Angela Merkels plan of centralized economic governance was just a copy of the Stability Pact that France and Germany had torpedoed in 2003-2004. The mechanisms to contain the excesses that have led to this crisis existed for a long time but were never applied.
Treaty changes require participation of the European parliament, the EU Commission, and all 27 national parliaments. Then the treaty must be ratified by all member statesby referendum in some cases. It would take years and could be derailed by the referendum of a single country. A less onerous alternative: treaty changes that would impact only the 17 Eurozone countries. Sweden, the UK, and other non-euro countries would not have to agree to the changes. It might speed up the timing a little, but if successful, if might split Europe in two: the Eurozone with iron-clad budgets in Merkels sense, and the remaining ten EU countries with no such restrictions.
A simplified procedure has been bandied about: decision by EU countries and ratification by member states. But even that takes timeat least one and a half years, according to an expert cited by the Handelsblattas national parliaments might not readily agree. But deep changes, such as outside control of national budgets, would require the normal procedure, rather then the simplified one. In addition, they might require constitutional changes in some countries, which would add to the uncertainty for years to come. Yet everything must be squared away by March, according to Merkela deadline, actually: Sarkozy may lose his job during the elections in April/May, and his potential successors to the left and to the right have vastly different ideas and might not bend as easily to Merkels will...
The Swiss government is preparing for a collapse of the euro, according to Swiss Finance Minister Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf. She told parliament that a work group was studying the imposition of capital controls and negative interest rates to protect Switzerland from the capital flight that a euro collapse would engender (Handelsblatt). A tidal wave of euros would drive up the Swiss franc, devastate Switzerlands export economy, and devalue its vast wealth invested in other countries. Already in August, the Swiss National Bank instituted a currency peg and swore to defend it by acquiring unlimited amounts of euros, a risky strategy if the euro were to collapse (for the debacle leading up to the peg, read... Swiss Franc Wreaks Havoc In Switzerland)...Europe has never been in so much danger, said French President Nicolas Sarkozy a few hours before the summit (Le Figaro). He worried about the risk that Europe will explode and urged that an agreement be found because there were only a few weeks left to make the decisions. He called for more solidarity, more discipline, and more governance within the Eurozone. An agreement on Friday is crucial, he said. We wont have a second chance....But Angela Merkels fiscal-union dictate of belt-tightening and central control over budgets isnt going down all that well elsewhere.
I dont have any support in Sweden for changing the treaty, said Fredrik Reinfeldt, Prime Minister of Sweden upon his arrival in Brussels (Le Figaro). Sweden is one of the 27 EU members but not in the 17-member Eurozone. To contain the debt crisis, he proposed instead the reinforcement of existing bailout funds and more IMF involvement...A new treaty cant be imposed, said Vivian Reding, Vice President of the European Commission (Le Figaro). Instead, measures should be implemented on the basis of existing treaties. She contended that Angela Merkels plan of centralized economic governance was just a copy of the Stability Pact that France and Germany had torpedoed in 2003-2004. The mechanisms to contain the excesses that have led to this crisis existed for a long time but were never applied.
Treaty changes require participation of the European parliament, the EU Commission, and all 27 national parliaments. Then the treaty must be ratified by all member statesby referendum in some cases. It would take years and could be derailed by the referendum of a single country. A less onerous alternative: treaty changes that would impact only the 17 Eurozone countries. Sweden, the UK, and other non-euro countries would not have to agree to the changes. It might speed up the timing a little, but if successful, if might split Europe in two: the Eurozone with iron-clad budgets in Merkels sense, and the remaining ten EU countries with no such restrictions.
A simplified procedure has been bandied about: decision by EU countries and ratification by member states. But even that takes timeat least one and a half years, according to an expert cited by the Handelsblattas national parliaments might not readily agree. But deep changes, such as outside control of national budgets, would require the normal procedure, rather then the simplified one. In addition, they might require constitutional changes in some countries, which would add to the uncertainty for years to come. Yet everything must be squared away by March, according to Merkela deadline, actually: Sarkozy may lose his job during the elections in April/May, and his potential successors to the left and to the right have vastly different ideas and might not bend as easily to Merkels will...
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