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FBaggins

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33. Thanks for making it so easy.
Wed Apr 18, 2012, 01:49 PM
Apr 2012
newsflash: there is a trap built into toilets

Duh. And that's just because you'll get a bad smell without it. Yet you're actually trying to sell a BS line that they leave off something so simple in a pool for spent reactor fuel!?!?!?

What we are faced with is a situation that is an all new experience. It is an all new field of nuclear science.

Not really. But even if that were true, on what basis does it allow you to make up new facts that contradict the science that already exists?

For the other readers here, know this: the level of water in the pools was effected by lack of pumps, broken pipes, and or, cracks in the pools. The water levels went down enough to allow the heat decay of the rods to become uncontrolled.

Prove it. Provide a single link to a single news source (not a UFO/conspiracy theory website) saying anything like this. There was at one point a (false) report that one of the pools had boiled dry, but this fantasy that multiple pools drained dry because the pipes broke and didn't even have a trap... exists only in your imagination.

Overheating of just the tops of the rods would be enough to create steam and other reactions leading to explosions.

Dead wrong (yet again). "Steam" is easy... you don't need to expose anything to get steam... but steam doesn't explode when it isn't constrained (a pressure explosion). "Other reactions" is the creation of hydrogen (which happens even without overheating, but not to the same extent)... but you're not talking about hydrogren explosions. The only way to get the fuel to "explode" would require the water to be gone. The fuel has to melt and change configuration into something that could resume criticality. You could sell that lie to the ignorant a year ago... but not today. Look at all of the video from pool 4. It's obvious that nothing melted there, let alone exploded.

If these elevated pools of water and hot-rods (at least 50 feet high from the ground) somehow were to be toppled by an earthquake or collapse of their foundations, and they fall to the ground, any hope of controlling the reactions will end.

And if the tooth fairy were to turn evil and steal the russian nuclear launch codes and use them... that would be bad too.

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thank you Senator Wyden n/t grasswire Apr 2012 #1
all the pro-nuclear folks should pay a visit Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #2
Creativity really isn't the problem. kristopher Apr 2012 #7
I guess what I meant is that the people in power Voice for Peace Apr 2012 #10
I really don't understand . . . Richard D Apr 2012 #3
So true. Maybe they are minimizing the raouldukelives Apr 2012 #6
Because as per Rachel Maddow last week... Javaman Apr 2012 #8
Thats the part that sticks in my crawl madokie Apr 2012 #11
Like the unsinkable Titanic? RobertEarl Apr 2012 #13
It was their arrogance that did us all in... Javaman Apr 2012 #19
Because it's not a threat to the world jeff47 Apr 2012 #9
We have us ANOTHER expert, eh? RobertEarl Apr 2012 #12
If you want to claim a threat, do the math. jeff47 Apr 2012 #14
wow RobertEarl Apr 2012 #15
Detecting a molecule is easy. Getting harmed by it, not so much. jeff47 Apr 2012 #16
wow again RobertEarl Apr 2012 #17
So kids and especially female kids live in lead-lined safes? jeff47 Apr 2012 #22
I know you Javaman Apr 2012 #23
Feel free to cite any incorrect fact. (nt) jeff47 Apr 2012 #40
Wrong again. FBaggins Apr 2012 #24
Oh? RobertEarl Apr 2012 #26
Yes. FBaggins Apr 2012 #27
So robots will save us all! Javaman Apr 2012 #20
You are aware that people invent new stuff, right? jeff47 Apr 2012 #21
robots are going to save us all!!! Javaman Apr 2012 #38
Well, considering your claim is we have to abandon Japan for the next few hundred years jeff47 Apr 2012 #39
Where did I say that? Javaman Apr 2012 #41
More.... abelenkpe Apr 2012 #4
Big technical hurdle to be overcome RobertEarl Apr 2012 #18
Well... it looks like you spelled that correctly FBaggins Apr 2012 #25
Guess this is news to you? RobertEarl Apr 2012 #28
It would be news to anyone FBaggins Apr 2012 #29
it was dumb RobertEarl Apr 2012 #30
You're really pro-nuke, aren't you? FBaggins Apr 2012 #31
What.... RobertEarl Apr 2012 #32
Thanks for making it so easy. FBaggins Apr 2012 #33
that is sad, FBaggins RobertEarl Apr 2012 #34
Lol... I've only give you facts. FBaggins Apr 2012 #35
Your one fact RobertEarl Apr 2012 #36
Claiming it's "asinine" just puts your own ignorance on display. FBaggins Apr 2012 #37
Check this JEB Apr 2012 #5
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