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In reply to the discussion: Senator Wyden: Fukushima Worse Than Reported [View all]FBaggins
(28,706 posts)33. Thanks for making it so easy.
newsflash: there is a trap built into toilets
Duh. And that's just because you'll get a bad smell without it. Yet you're actually trying to sell a BS line that they leave off something so simple in a pool for spent reactor fuel!?!?!?
What we are faced with is a situation that is an all new experience. It is an all new field of nuclear science.
Not really. But even if that were true, on what basis does it allow you to make up new facts that contradict the science that already exists?
For the other readers here, know this: the level of water in the pools was effected by lack of pumps, broken pipes, and or, cracks in the pools. The water levels went down enough to allow the heat decay of the rods to become uncontrolled.
Prove it. Provide a single link to a single news source (not a UFO/conspiracy theory website) saying anything like this. There was at one point a (false) report that one of the pools had boiled dry, but this fantasy that multiple pools drained dry because the pipes broke and didn't even have a trap... exists only in your imagination.
Overheating of just the tops of the rods would be enough to create steam and other reactions leading to explosions.
Dead wrong (yet again). "Steam" is easy... you don't need to expose anything to get steam... but steam doesn't explode when it isn't constrained (a pressure explosion). "Other reactions" is the creation of hydrogen (which happens even without overheating, but not to the same extent)... but you're not talking about hydrogren explosions. The only way to get the fuel to "explode" would require the water to be gone. The fuel has to melt and change configuration into something that could resume criticality. You could sell that lie to the ignorant a year ago... but not today. Look at all of the video from pool 4. It's obvious that nothing melted there, let alone exploded.
If these elevated pools of water and hot-rods (at least 50 feet high from the ground) somehow were to be toppled by an earthquake or collapse of their foundations, and they fall to the ground, any hope of controlling the reactions will end.
And if the tooth fairy were to turn evil and steal the russian nuclear launch codes and use them... that would be bad too.
Duh. And that's just because you'll get a bad smell without it. Yet you're actually trying to sell a BS line that they leave off something so simple in a pool for spent reactor fuel!?!?!?
What we are faced with is a situation that is an all new experience. It is an all new field of nuclear science.
Not really. But even if that were true, on what basis does it allow you to make up new facts that contradict the science that already exists?
For the other readers here, know this: the level of water in the pools was effected by lack of pumps, broken pipes, and or, cracks in the pools. The water levels went down enough to allow the heat decay of the rods to become uncontrolled.
Prove it. Provide a single link to a single news source (not a UFO/conspiracy theory website) saying anything like this. There was at one point a (false) report that one of the pools had boiled dry, but this fantasy that multiple pools drained dry because the pipes broke and didn't even have a trap... exists only in your imagination.
Overheating of just the tops of the rods would be enough to create steam and other reactions leading to explosions.
Dead wrong (yet again). "Steam" is easy... you don't need to expose anything to get steam... but steam doesn't explode when it isn't constrained (a pressure explosion). "Other reactions" is the creation of hydrogen (which happens even without overheating, but not to the same extent)... but you're not talking about hydrogren explosions. The only way to get the fuel to "explode" would require the water to be gone. The fuel has to melt and change configuration into something that could resume criticality. You could sell that lie to the ignorant a year ago... but not today. Look at all of the video from pool 4. It's obvious that nothing melted there, let alone exploded.
If these elevated pools of water and hot-rods (at least 50 feet high from the ground) somehow were to be toppled by an earthquake or collapse of their foundations, and they fall to the ground, any hope of controlling the reactions will end.
And if the tooth fairy were to turn evil and steal the russian nuclear launch codes and use them... that would be bad too.
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