Environment & Energy
In reply to the discussion: UK firm's solar power breakthrough could make world's most efficient panels by 2021 [View all]NNadir
(38,574 posts)We have spent over two trillion dollars on solar and wind in the last ten years.
It is not doing anything to address coal, oil and methane. In fact, without coal, oil, and in particular gas, the solar industry would be even more useless than it is.
Do you know where electronic waste is "recycled." In the first world? Why do you think China, now a wealthy nation that made a fortune in "recycling" electronic waste banned it last year?
Because it's green.
There are tens of thousands of papers in the primary scientific literature on lead concentrations in Chinese children.
I type these words into Google Scholar: chinese children lead concentrations recycling
I get more than 35,000 hits in 0.12 seconds. I've been reading papers along these lines for many decades.
Here's the thing with people promoting so called "renewable energy" as lipstick on the gas, oil and coal pig. They are uniformly bourgeois, and uniformly oblivious to the consequences of their actions.
The solar industry, after 50 years of cheering, combined with wind, tidal, and geothermal on which we bet the future of the planet, produces less than 13 exajoules of energy on a planet where humanity is producing and consuming 600 exajoules per year.
We here the lie that "coal is dead," even though coal has been the fastest growing source of energy on the planet in the 21st century, albeit in countries we don't care about, the same countries we send our electronic waste to be "recycled."
Now.
Do you know what is an essential material for making steel for all the wind turbines that will be land fill in about 20 years? Um, coke. Do you know how they make coke? They heat coal. Do you know what provides the heat for coke production. Coal fires.
How about aluminum? Do you know what an aluminum green anode is? Do you know how it's made. I'll tell you. It's from petroleum coke, made from the refinery bottoms.
0.8 grams, eh? For a form of energy that is trivial, no less. Imagine, if you will, that we multiply that figure by a billion, for a billion solar cells, in the quixotic quest to make "green" so called distributed energy, for everyonem and add to it all the toxic shit in batteries. Will you follow your 0.8 grams to see where it goes?
Distributed no less, widely.
Here's why I oppose so called "renewable energy," and applaud the only sustainable form of nuclear energy. I open science books and scientific papers. I don't pat myself with self-satisfied obliviousness.
OK?
Thanks for letting me know how vibrantly aware you are. After listening to this shit for the last 30 or 40 years, I happened to notice that the concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide hit over 416 ppm this year, and that the rate of increase is reached 2.4 ppm/year, the highest rate ever observed.
I'm paying attention. You?
The cause of climate change may involve denial on the right, but here on the left we are all too willing to lie to ourselves and repeat over and over and over and over and over that so called "renewable energy" will save the day. It hasn't saved the day; it isn't saving the day; and it won't save the day. The reason is physics, the low energy to mass ratio of renewable energy devices and their need for redundant environmentally unacceptable back up. There is a reason that humanity abandoned so called "renewable energy" early in the 19th century, and all the reactionary self delusion in the world won't change that reason.
The last best hope for humanity is nuclear energy. I'd willing to bet a lot of money you're against it.
Enjoy the weekend.