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10. Yeah, right, a "I'm not an anti-nuke" anti-nuke who complains about cracks in a two nuclear...
Mon Jan 10, 2022, 10:12 PM
Jan 2022

...nuclear reactors while 18,000 people die every damned day from air pollution.

...A "I'm not an anti-nuke" anti-nuke who is worried that the company decommissioning the bogeyman at Three Mile Island doesn't have enough insurance while over 70 million people have died from air pollution in the last ten years...

Is there anyone who fails to understand that I've been listening to this idiot rhetoric for almost two decades here, and longer elsewhere? I keep repeating: When I started here in November of 2002, my first exposure to this garbage thinking built around cut and paste posts from websites run by idiots, the concentration of the dangerous fossil fuel waste carbon dioxide in the planetary atmosphere was 372.68 ppm. Yesterday it was 417.81 ppm, a little over 19 years later.

Bourgeois rich white people don't want nuclear plants in their backyard? That's the problem? How about we put a gas plant in their back yard? Are they OK with that?

How about we shut the power down whenever the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing? Rich people can install generators, of course, and they will, and they'll run them on gasoline or dangerous natural gas or propane without ever stopping to think for a New York second what that means.

Or how about we get a few million Congolese slaves to dig cobalt for our batteries and build a big battery mountain the size of Mount Whitney laced with nickel, cobalt, methyl ethyl ketone and, oh yeah, lithium?

Rather than trash wilderness, how about a 1000 giant wind turbines, grinding away whenever the fuck the wind blows at the edge of a gated community of people paying servants from the third world to wax their Teslas?

If, the Germans were required to pay for the people killed by the coal they burned, would our "market" worshipping Ayn Rand worshipping assholes still carry on about how cheap wind energy is for the few hours the wind blows, and fuck the rest of the times.

What fucking part of this graphic escapes the pixilated minds of the people pouring this oblivious shit out, year after year after year after year?



EIA European Residential Electricity Prices

You know what? I don't fucking worship "the market." I'm not fucking Ayn Rand. However, I note that requiring that we built two systems to do what one can do more cleanly isn't frugality. Quite to the contrary, it's a sybaritic drunken festival of stupidity and waste.

But I repeat:

The amount of money "invested" in so called "renewable energy" in the period between 2004 and 2018 is over 3.036 trillion dollars; dominated by solar and wind which soaked up 2.774 trillion dollars.

Source: UNEP/Bloomberg Global Investment in Renewable Energy, 2019. We spent this money for no result.

You know what Germany was doing today, while never falling below 480 g CO2/kwh, and spending most of the day above 500 g CO2/kwh? It was dumping waste that will be impact every generation hereafter, directly into the planetary atmosphere.

There is no commercial technology that can remove this waste. It's there essentially forever as far as human beings are concerned.

Modern Nuclear plants are built to last 80 years. The real problem is that this generation of wind and solar powered bourgeois consumer minded assholes is unwilling to leave a damned thing other than waste, ash, destroyed seas and destroyed atmospheres to future generation. If we cared a whit for future generations, we'd build nuclear plants for them, pay for them, and let all of the rewards of our efforts stand for a legacy of caring and love and hope for the lives they will lead, a gift to allow them to do the great things the humans might do in the absence of ignorance. Instead we do the opposite.

The United States built 100 nuclear reactors in about 25 years while providing the lowest cost electricity in the world. They were designed by people with slide rules rather than computers. Many of these reactors are still running decades later, although anti-nukes have done everything in their pernicious power to destroy these devices, destroy the institutions where they were studied and designed, caused nuclear engineering departments at major universities to shrivel, cheering for the destruction of valuable infrastructure designed by some of the finest minds that ever existed, all this while crowing a reactionary call to return to so called "renewable energy" that was abandoned largely in the 19th and early 20th century for a reason.

I resent being addressed as if I am stupid. And let's be clear. Chanting the same dogmatic drivel year after year at me here, while I watched carbon dioxide rise by over 45 ppm, is treating me as if I am stupid.

Numbers don't lie, but people do.

And whining "I'm not an anti-nuke" while dragging out every anti-nuke shibboleth of entrenched encrusted ignorance is not a remotely believable statement, not for a New York second.

I can only return contempt with contempt.

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