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NNadir

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3. It's trivial amounts of power, and I note, responsible for disproportionate emissions.
Mon Jan 17, 2022, 09:56 PM
Jan 2022

One would, of course, expect a remark like this to defend the indefensible from those who apologize for what is effect, a crime against future generations, burning coal.

As of this writing, 8:29 PM EST US 1/17/22, France is importing 2.43% of its electricity from that coal burning shithole Germany, but the connected emissions with these imports amounts to 9.67% of France's emissions. Why so much? Because they're importing electricity from a shithole country that shut its nuclear plants in order to burn coal. (As of this writing, the German carbon intensity has risen to 438 g CO2/kwh.)

The French are producing 48.4 GW of reliable nuclear electricity and now, unsurprisingly, I have to listen to tripe about the imports from that filthy German power grid of 1.65 GW. France is producing twice as much nuclear power as Germany is producing burning coal.

If one was a serious person, that would tell one something, but apparently it doesn't in this case.

The reason they didn't build more nuclear reactors is because of all the bullshit rhetoric that has resulted in a climate disaster, the very, very, very dangerous and deadly idea that nuclear energy is "too dangerous" and climate change isn't "too dangerous." This bad thinking routinely causes more deaths than Covid.

I would similarly expect a very stupid answer from someone raising this kind of trivializing nonsense if I asked whether if Germany had not shut its 17 nuclear plants, whether it would be burning this much coal and dumping the waste on all of humanity for all generations.

Um...um...um...

It's very clear that this kind of ignorance kills people since burning coal kills people. Germany is killing people, to repeat the obvious, with air pollution right now, on the theory that "nuclear energy is too dangerous." This is dumb enough to be a Republican policy.

In addition France bought, happily tentatively, into the wind power Kool aid, which means it has to burn gas, as gas is the industry that the wind industry protects. As it is in Germany, the wind industry is as much of a detriment to clean energy in France, as it is in any other country.

The French stupidly built 17.2 "GW" of wind capacity, which is actually producing 4.5 GW of electricity, 14.05% capacity utilization, obviating the big lie told by "renewables will save us types," including the "I'm not an anti-nuke" anti-nukes when they report, as happens here all the time, bullshit about "GW of solar" and "GW of wind," capacity using the theoretical peak capacities never actually reached in practice.

If France had built new nuclear reactors instead of the wind junk, they wouldn't be burning gas right now.

As a result of "investing" in the low energy to mass wind industry, like every other fucking "renewables will save us" dominated system, the French are thus burning dangerous natural gas, to cover the unreliability of the wind lipstick on the gas pig.

(In Germany it's a coal pig.)

France has recognized the error of its ways by drinking the wind energy Kool-Aid and has committed again to a nuclear future. All the wind turbines in France, just like all the wind turbines now operating in the world, will be landfill in 25 years. Rather than trashing the beautiful French country side, France could build 4 reactors in 4 relatively small buildings and produce as much electricity as all the wind turbines in their country are producing and do so reliably with systems that will be operating when today's toddlers are well past retirement age.

Have a nice evening.

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Interesting to find at the Electricity Map link in your OP Finishline42 Jan 2022 #2
It's trivial amounts of power, and I note, responsible for disproportionate emissions. NNadir Jan 2022 #3
As of now, 11:00 AM US EST 01/18/22, Germany's... NNadir Jan 2022 #4
French nuclear John ONeill Jan 2022 #7
And at 3pm in Calif Finishline42 Jan 2022 #5
Oh goody. Percent talk from a five minute interval. You know, if one gives a shit, one can... NNadir Jan 2022 #6
A couple of things about Calif Finishline42 Jan 2022 #10
California Energy Regulations, according to PG&E CEO -- progree Jan 2022 #13
Californian renewables John ONeill Jan 2022 #8
Germany on Jan 19 at 3pm Finishline42 Jan 2022 #9
And? Is this supposed to be a big deal? They're still burning coal, the waste of which... NNadir Jan 2022 #11
Germany last year Finishline42 Jan 2022 #12
I decided to cherry pick a time to respond to this silliness. Right now, in "percent talk" German... NNadir Jan 2022 #14
As of today, in "percent talk" German Electricity CO2 Intensity is 510% higher than that of France. NNadir Jan 2022 #15
This morning's cherry pick in percent talk: Germany is producing 233% more electricity from coal... NNadir Jan 2022 #16
It isn't looking any prettier this afternoon, at 501 g CO2/kwh in Germany. NNadir Jan 2022 #17
From your link - Germany today at 6pm is at 153g Carbon Intensity Finishline42 Feb 2022 #18
Yeah, this is the first time they've been under 200% worse than France in weeks. NNadir Feb 2022 #19
And now come the Nord Stream 2 troubles, sooner than expected... hunter Feb 2022 #20
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