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FBaggins

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5. Conspiracy fodder?
Thu May 24, 2012, 10:52 AM
May 2012

All I did was show you how much "science" went into the figure (none at all). No conspiracy there... the same calculation has been performed in posts here for over a year (with the same ridiculously faulty assumptions behind them).

As for the report from Nature, I just read your link and the primary part concerns the unpublished (and probably unreviewed) report

Which coincides with a WHO study as well that isn't a draft.

9/10th; most cancers likely caused by radiation are not directly attributable to the radiation, similarly with teratogenic effects and also immune and autoimmune effects. No-one knows precisely why these pathologies are associated with excess radiation doses but there is an association.

So what you're claiming is that there's actual science to document the fact that the impact of radiation is ten times the impact of radiation? And you don't see the internally conflicting logic there?

For the record, not understanding the mechanism by which a particular cancer occured doesn't keep it from ending up in the statistics that feed dose response estimates. It's ridiculous to claim without any evidence at all that they just left out 90% of the health impact in their estimates.

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Fukushima’s doses tallied [View all] FBaggins May 2012 OP
I guess the real question is how many radioactive particles were released johnd83 May 2012 #1
Oh, dear intaglio May 2012 #2
Didn't you just get done asking how anyone could question the Max Planck Institute? FBaggins May 2012 #3
No , I asked why you thought the people at MPI were incredible idiots intaglio May 2012 #4
Conspiracy fodder? FBaggins May 2012 #5
You are conflating "caused" with "associated" intaglio May 2012 #6
Not at all. FBaggins May 2012 #7
Utility Says It Underestimated Radiation Released in Japan RobertEarl May 2012 #8
You just can't help but make up your own reality, can you? FBaggins May 2012 #9
You talking about the term: RobertEarl May 2012 #10
No... I didn't talk about the term at all. FBaggins May 2012 #11
Nothing needs to change? RobertEarl May 2012 #12
You still don't get it. You're the one "making stuff up" FBaggins May 2012 #13
Lot of words: nothing said RobertEarl May 2012 #14
Who says they don't have the data to analyze? FBaggins May 2012 #15
I know you feel awful RobertEarl May 2012 #16
You've mistaken laughter for "feeling awful" FBaggins May 2012 #17
Thank you RobertEarl May 2012 #18
Independent scientists are studying the effects.. PamW May 2012 #20
Marginal increases? RobertEarl May 2012 #21
Yes - marginal increases PamW May 2012 #22
Dare you RobertEarl May 2012 #23
How Dare You PamW May 2012 #24
Eh? RobertEarl May 2012 #25
Answer.. PamW May 2012 #26
Well RobertEarl May 2012 #27
The policy of Japan... PamW May 2012 #28
And then there is this from ex-Prime Minister RobertEarl May 2012 #29
"Lot of words: nothing said" Nihil May 2012 #19
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