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FBaggins

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15. Who says they don't have the data to analyze?
Sat May 26, 2012, 09:26 PM
May 2012

They have a representative sampling in the hundreds of thousands of readings. Sure, they're going to refine their estimate, and the purpose of the initial release is so that their peers can review their work... but it's dishonest to pretend that they either don't have access to data, or that the new total release estimate is new data that they lacked.

Well... dishonest or ignorant. Take your pick.

Funny you should talk about a deep cavern... because that is where the corium of the 3 leaking reactor "ex-containers" is going.... Down into the ground.

Which puts you firmly into chemtrail conspiracy fantasy land.

And where does this cavern sit? Why, right on the edge of the ocean. An ocean into which groundwater discharges.

And yet the ongoing monitoring of the sea right next to the reactors and for miles out fails to pick up this discharge?

Oh wait... I know. All of the universities/provinces/agencies involved are all in on the lie, right?

And what do people eat? Why, they eat fish that comes from the ocean that the corium is flowing into.

And the fish is also checked for contamination. That's all part of the conspiracy too, right?

Why can't you see this simple stuff? Even the report makes mention of these future impacts

Of course it does... because the dose is ongoing. But that doesn't mean that they can't estimate the dose received to date.

Just as importantly (and what you persist in ignoring), there are actual dose measurements that have been done (in one case they specifically mention, over 1,000 children in the area they expected the highest doses). The actual doses measured were significantly lower than the high end of the WHO/UNSCEAR estimates. Which clearly indicates that they've been conservative. So again, it's ignorant/dishonest to claim that they're lying in an attempt to allay fears.

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Fukushima’s doses tallied [View all] FBaggins May 2012 OP
I guess the real question is how many radioactive particles were released johnd83 May 2012 #1
Oh, dear intaglio May 2012 #2
Didn't you just get done asking how anyone could question the Max Planck Institute? FBaggins May 2012 #3
No , I asked why you thought the people at MPI were incredible idiots intaglio May 2012 #4
Conspiracy fodder? FBaggins May 2012 #5
You are conflating "caused" with "associated" intaglio May 2012 #6
Not at all. FBaggins May 2012 #7
Utility Says It Underestimated Radiation Released in Japan RobertEarl May 2012 #8
You just can't help but make up your own reality, can you? FBaggins May 2012 #9
You talking about the term: RobertEarl May 2012 #10
No... I didn't talk about the term at all. FBaggins May 2012 #11
Nothing needs to change? RobertEarl May 2012 #12
You still don't get it. You're the one "making stuff up" FBaggins May 2012 #13
Lot of words: nothing said RobertEarl May 2012 #14
Who says they don't have the data to analyze? FBaggins May 2012 #15
I know you feel awful RobertEarl May 2012 #16
You've mistaken laughter for "feeling awful" FBaggins May 2012 #17
Thank you RobertEarl May 2012 #18
Independent scientists are studying the effects.. PamW May 2012 #20
Marginal increases? RobertEarl May 2012 #21
Yes - marginal increases PamW May 2012 #22
Dare you RobertEarl May 2012 #23
How Dare You PamW May 2012 #24
Eh? RobertEarl May 2012 #25
Answer.. PamW May 2012 #26
Well RobertEarl May 2012 #27
The policy of Japan... PamW May 2012 #28
And then there is this from ex-Prime Minister RobertEarl May 2012 #29
"Lot of words: nothing said" Nihil May 2012 #19
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