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FBaggins

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17. You've mistaken laughter for "feeling awful"
Sat May 26, 2012, 09:43 PM
May 2012

I know that tears can be involved in both cases, but I assure you this is pure
(And no... that's laughing at your ongoing attempts at spin... not at the people of Japan).

More direct evidence for you.

From their presser:

The work so far has been focussed on collecting and reviewing the material published in the scientific
literature, defining the assessment methodologies and working arrangements, and defining processes
for quality assurance of the data and analysis. There are many sources of data for the Committee’s
evaluation; the most important of which are:


- Data from Japan from official government agencies; many are available on websites, though not
in machine-readable formats; most, but not all of the information, is available in English. The
Government of Japan has been requested to supply the data in electronic formats, together
with supplementary information, so that the experts can more readily use the data;

- Measurements made by other United Nations Member States are being compiled and reviewed;

- Compiled and checked datasets are being made available by other United Nations organizations,
including the Preparatory Commission for the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty
Organization (CTBTO), the Food and Agricultural Organization of the United Nations (FAO), the
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the World Health Organization (WHO) and the
World Meteorological Organization (WMO); and

- Information and independent analyses published in peer-reviewed scientific journals.

http://www.unis.unvienna.org/pdf/2012/UNSCEAR_Backgrounder.pdf


In other words, none of that they have used so far relies on the government estimates of total release. None of the data they've been using has changed, so there isn't a need to start over with this imaginary "new" data.

They go on in the following section to talk about those total releases and say only that they will do their own estimates and their look at the total release estimate says that they are "plausible as initial estimates".

So once again, you're entirely innaccurate to pretend that either the WHO or UNSCEAR dose estimates need to be tossed out in light of revisions on figures that they explicitly say at initial estimates and don't say that they fed their own work.

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Fukushima’s doses tallied [View all] FBaggins May 2012 OP
I guess the real question is how many radioactive particles were released johnd83 May 2012 #1
Oh, dear intaglio May 2012 #2
Didn't you just get done asking how anyone could question the Max Planck Institute? FBaggins May 2012 #3
No , I asked why you thought the people at MPI were incredible idiots intaglio May 2012 #4
Conspiracy fodder? FBaggins May 2012 #5
You are conflating "caused" with "associated" intaglio May 2012 #6
Not at all. FBaggins May 2012 #7
Utility Says It Underestimated Radiation Released in Japan RobertEarl May 2012 #8
You just can't help but make up your own reality, can you? FBaggins May 2012 #9
You talking about the term: RobertEarl May 2012 #10
No... I didn't talk about the term at all. FBaggins May 2012 #11
Nothing needs to change? RobertEarl May 2012 #12
You still don't get it. You're the one "making stuff up" FBaggins May 2012 #13
Lot of words: nothing said RobertEarl May 2012 #14
Who says they don't have the data to analyze? FBaggins May 2012 #15
I know you feel awful RobertEarl May 2012 #16
You've mistaken laughter for "feeling awful" FBaggins May 2012 #17
Thank you RobertEarl May 2012 #18
Independent scientists are studying the effects.. PamW May 2012 #20
Marginal increases? RobertEarl May 2012 #21
Yes - marginal increases PamW May 2012 #22
Dare you RobertEarl May 2012 #23
How Dare You PamW May 2012 #24
Eh? RobertEarl May 2012 #25
Answer.. PamW May 2012 #26
Well RobertEarl May 2012 #27
The policy of Japan... PamW May 2012 #28
And then there is this from ex-Prime Minister RobertEarl May 2012 #29
"Lot of words: nothing said" Nihil May 2012 #19
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