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wtmusic

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2. Renewables Jesus has the answer.

Reply to Buzz Clik (Reply #1)

Thu May 23, 2013, 04:14 PM

May 2013

FWIW.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=a-path-to-sustainable-energy-by-2030

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The Renewable Energy Reality Check [View all] wtmusic May 2013 OP

I very much want to hear from those at DU who repeatedly claim that this profile is wrong. Buzz Clik May 2013 #1

Renewables Jesus has the answer. wtmusic May 2013 #2

This study of predictions shows your sources are the least reliable of all available. kristopher May 2013 #4

Excellent rebuttal, as usual. Stay after them. nt ladjf May 2013 #18

The Original Post Reality Check Wilms May 2013 #3

You forgot the EIA wtmusic May 2013 #5

See article in post 4 kristopher May 2013 #6

Nah. I posted a comment about "their" data, too Wilms May 2013 #7

What's your point? wtmusic May 2013 #9

Written by the president of an "alternative energy" company who stands to profit immensely wtmusic May 2013 #8

Really now. Is a photo of fat Rex Tillerson supposed to prove something? wtmusic May 2013 #11

First off, that isn't Tillerson. Wilms May 2013 #13

Apology accepted. wtmusic May 2013 #15

I will admit that I haven't read the article. Archaic May 2013 #10

The graph forecasts a drop in coal use (by percentage) wtmusic May 2013 #12

I sure hope somebody comes up with a very stronge CCS program. Archaic May 2013 #22

Read it, and will await the 2nd article Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #14

Wind is the fastest growing in terms of percentage. It's insignificant, before and after. wtmusic May 2013 #16

See below. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #17

2012: 100GW total global PV -- By 2018 Additional 220GW only rooftop to be added kristopher May 2013 #19

I'm aware of that, but am skeptical. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #20

Solar HAS come down to a level where it is competitive kristopher May 2013 #21

A number of 100mw to 300mw solar pv plants will be built over the next 18 months- in the US. FogerRox May 2013 #27

Wind is "cheap" because of the production tax credit wtmusic May 2013 #23

As regards CO2, Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #24

No, not terrible. Natgas generates about 60% as much CO2 as coal wtmusic May 2013 #25

I think people deliberately spreading known misinformation like this should be banned from EE kristopher May 2013 #26

Are utilities required to buy the cheapest power? FogerRox May 2013 #28

No, that is when they turn of fossil fuels and use wind instead. kristopher May 2013 #29

Interesting, but you do realize, I hope, that a backup is always going to be necessary. Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #31

Your meaning isn't clear, but I think the IEEE article is. kristopher May 2013 #32

Neither agree nor disagree Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #30

You seem to be studiously avoiding the subject of the production tax credit wtmusic May 2013 #33

Not sure where you're coming from, Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #34

Ah, the credit is only temporary. wtmusic May 2013 #35

...and it will never store more energy ever in all eternity, right? Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #36

We don't have all eternity. wtmusic May 2013 #37

Risk management Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #38

Based on your analogy, you would support an immediate evacuation of Wyoming. wtmusic May 2013 #39

You're not getting it Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #41

Renewables do nothing about fossil fuel usage 4dsc May 2013 #40

See below Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #42

But on the other hand... GliderGuider May 2013 #43

I see your hand and raise you... Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #44

A dropping % indicates a linear rise in concentration... GliderGuider May 2013 #45

True, but as I tried to point out, that's the dog that's not barking Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #47

China took in our washing - that took care of part of it. nt GliderGuider May 2013 #48

Maybe the linear CO2 concentration growth trend is coincidental? Socialistlemur May 2013 #49

Plants are known to grow better at greater CO2 concentrations, Benton D Struckcheon May 2013 #50

After further review CO2 increase is constrained by ocean Socialistlemur May 2013 #52

I've been wanting to test whether the seasonal variability is in fact increasing, Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #59

In PPM terms there is a slight uptrend in variability Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #60

Renewables are not a substitute for oil 4dsc May 2013 #51

Same thing: as oil supplies dwindle prices increase..renewables kick in Socialistlemur May 2013 #53

You miss the whole point 4dsc May 2013 #54

You would have to show why solar wont do the job eventually Socialistlemur May 2013 #55

There's this little problem about nighttime, and when the wind dies. wtmusic May 2013 #56

I think you mean the wind power industry? Socialistlemur May 2013 #57

Natural gas peaking plants fill in the gaps when solar and wind aren't working wtmusic May 2013 #58

My energy utility blew up an adjacent neighborhood about 2 years ago CreekDog May 2013 #46