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OKIsItJustMe

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14. There was no mistake that there was a hydrogen bubble, and there's debate about the explosion
Sun Mar 4, 2012, 03:45 PM
Mar 2012

As I wrote, "This time the hydrogen didn’t stay in the reactor."

In both cases, the hydrogen was a result of overheated zirconium encased fuel rods reacting with water.

A problem with the hydrogen bubble at Three Mile Island, which had nothing to do with an explosion, was the simple fact that it could displace water in the reactor, further exposing the core.

http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/04/post-4.html

[font face=Times, Times New Roman, Serif][font size=5]Investigation: Revelations about Three Mile Island disaster raise doubts over nuclear plant safety[/font]

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The Thompsons aren't the only ones who have produced evidence that the radiation releases from TMI were much higher than the official estimates. Arnie Gundersen -- a nuclear engineer and former nuclear industry executive turned whistle-blower -- has done his own analysis, which he shared for the first time at a symposium in Harrisburg last week.

"I think the numbers on the NRC's website are off by a factor of 100 to 1,000," he said.

Exactly how much radiation was released is impossible to say, since onsite monitors immediately went off the scale after the explosion. But Gundersen points to an inside report by an NRC manager who himself estimated the release of about 36 million curies -- almost three times as much as the NRC's official estimate. Gundersen also notes that industry itself has acknowledged there was a total of 10 billion curies of radiation inside the reactor containment. Using the common estimate that a tenth of it escaped, that means as much as a billion curies could have been released to the environment.

Gundersen also offered compelling evidence based on pressure monitoring data from the plant that shortly before 2 p.m. on March 28, 1979 there was a hydrogen explosion inside the TMI containment building that could have released significant amounts of radiation to the environment. The NRC and industry to this day deny there was an explosion, instead referring to what happened as a "hydrogen burn." But Gundersen noted that affidavits from four reactor operators confirm that the plant manager was aware of a dramatic pressure spike after which the internal pressure dropped to outside pressure; he also noted that the control room shook and doors were blown off hinges. In addition, Gundersen reported that while Metropolitan Edison would have known about the pressure spike immediately from monitoring equipment, it didn't notify the NRC about what had happened until two days later.



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THE MEDIA DID NOT HYPE FUKUSHIMA [View all] kristopher Mar 2012 OP
Underhyped was my impression. aquart Mar 2012 #1
With no rational reason to BE afraid if it, why would you? TheWraith Mar 2012 #6
How many Americans do you think recognize the name "Tohoku?" OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #7
Exactly right. Nihil Mar 2012 #21
I guess it depends on which definition of "hype" you use. FBaggins Mar 2012 #2
Media selectivity PamW Mar 2012 #11
Not hyped but Frontline underhyped that day. For instance why weren't any questions snagglepuss Mar 2012 #3
"hyped" or not is probably the wrong way to frame the question caraher Mar 2012 #4
Watch the Frontline OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #5
The potental and real consequences were under-reported kristopher Mar 2012 #8
One clear way in which the events at “Fukushima Daiichi” were overhyped… OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #9
Really? That was a part of the media coverage I must have missed. kristopher Mar 2012 #10
Which part did you miss? OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #16
... the concern so many self-absorbed “Americans” showed for their own health, rather than... kristopher Mar 2012 #17
I didn't attempt to "dismiss the meltdowns." Clearly you have me confused with someone else. OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #18
You do realize that communication is a multi-party activity, right? kristopher Mar 2012 #19
I guess I should be comforted that you only compared me to Rush Limbaugh... OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #20
Your remarks were dismissive and serve to diminish the consequences of the meltdowns... kristopher Mar 2012 #22
Hydrogen bubble turned out to be a mistake. PamW Mar 2012 #12
And the reactor designs. AtheistCrusader Mar 2012 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #15
There was no mistake that there was a hydrogen bubble, and there's debate about the explosion OKIsItJustMe Mar 2012 #14
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