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kristopher

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13. Dear Hydrogen Dude: just saying it doesn't make it so...

Wed Jun 10, 2015, 11:24 AM

Jun 2015

Especially when you are going against numerous comprehensive resource assessments.

Your position is as poorly founded as the one you hold on hydrogen and fuel cells. In fact, I'm betting your beliefs about the lithium are a by-product of your zealous zeal for hydrogen.

http://www.erb.umich.edu/Research/InstituteReports/09-10/GlobalLithiumAvailability-PaulGruberPabloMedina.pdf

Riddle me this: Your source states, the "lithium shortage is likely to worsen", right? Why does your post #2 include your statement that "At this point, when they are recycled, it’s not for the lithium. It’s not worth enough to make it profitable."

Why is that? Shortages send people scrambling to bring the material in short supply to market. There has been no rush to open new mining and by your own admission the value of lithium is low and futures markets also aren't terribly interested. Where is the evidence - SOLID EVIDENCE - of an actual shortage that is "likely to worsen"?

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