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kristopher

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18. You are participating in a well known FUD campaign.
Wed Jun 10, 2015, 10:23 PM
Jun 2015

That campaign of disinformation is the reason Evans came out with "Part 2" and he refers to it clearly.
Post #3 quotes Evans, "This revision is written in response to a recent report which is alarmist in its gross underestimate of resources and, in several respects, ludicrous."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1127&pid=86654

The attack on lithium goes along with innumerable other misinformation campaigns about renewables - hyper-exaggerations about baseload, viewshed, bird killers, rare earth metals, toxic wastes, land area, energy density, intermittency, too expensive, etc, etc, etc.

You both routinely and shamelessly push hydrogen with partial truths, misinformation, and hyperbole that you use to obscure the fact that you run from engaging on the significant negative points of efficiency and infrastructure costs associated with H2.

You have - both - been engaging in this propaganda for years on DUEE and your predilections are very well known; so please, spare us the wide-eyed innocent "Who me?" routine as you make post after post of junk that is largely non-responsive to the points raised in discussion.

There is no material constraint for lithium that is outside of what normal market mechanisms will address in the course of doing business. For some reason you are obviously wedded to hydrogen and clearly wish with feelings bordering on desperation that lithium batteries were not what is killing fuel cells but the reality is the energy density of lithium batteries changed everything.

You might as well accept the fact that we will have moved on to new battery chemistries long before there is any material impact on EV production caused by lack of availability of lithium.

Why don't you do everyone a favor and stop pretending that there is a "hydrogen economy" right around the corner. No one believes it any more than they would believe you if you claimed buggy whip manufacturing were poised for a comeback.

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How much lithium is thrown away and end up in municipal dumps? -none Jun 2015 #1
Unfortunately recycling Lithium Ion batteries is not like recycling paper OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #2
AN ABUNDANCE OF LITHIUM kristopher Jun 2015 #3
Both parts are… seven years old… OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #4
"Has anything changed since then?" kristopher Jun 2015 #5
Tesla's Lithium Supply Constraints Might Hamper Its Growth OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #6
Poor little hydrogen loving feller just can't face the facts... kristopher Jun 2015 #7
BU-308: Availability of Lithium OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #8
You really need to stop huffing the hydrogen... kristopher Jun 2015 #9
Rare Metals Supply and Demand OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #10
ROFL - Again, just reiterating basic natural resource economics doesn't show ... kristopher Jun 2015 #11
Critical materials research needed to secure U.S. manufacturing, officials say OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #12
Dear Hydrogen Dude: just saying it doesn't make it so... kristopher Jun 2015 #13
Lithium hydroxide prices edge up on tighter supply OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #14
Dear Hydrogen Dude: Yes, and...? kristopher Jun 2015 #15
Hydrogen Haters nationalize the fed Jun 2015 #16
Strangely enough… OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #17
You are participating in a well known FUD campaign. kristopher Jun 2015 #18
It seems odd to me that the Critical Materials Institute is engaged in FUD OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #19
No, the govt scientists are legitimate kristopher Jun 2015 #20
I see… Perhaps you need greater context for one of my earlier posts… OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #21
Are you claiming you honestly don't know the difference between... kristopher Jun 2015 #22
You’ve put words in my mouth from the very start OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #23
Of course you can't document that... kristopher Jun 2015 #24
Please, point to where I said there was a “lack of a raw resource” OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #25
Your post #6 coming as a response to exchange in posts 3-5. kristopher Jun 2015 #26
Post #6 does not say there is a lack of Lithium in the world OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #27
Sure Hydrogen Dude, whatever you now say... kristopher Jun 2015 #28
As I said, you’ve put words in my mouth. OKIsItJustMe Jun 2015 #29
Sure Hydrogen Dude, whatever you now say. kristopher Jun 2015 #30
I Think You Guys Would Argue With Yourselves I You Didn't Have Each Other CajunBlazer Jun 2015 #32
Human Ingenuity Concurs All CajunBlazer Jun 2015 #31
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