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OKIsItJustMe

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1. "worst-case thinking" bias (AKA “doomer” bias)
Thu Aug 13, 2015, 11:36 AM
Aug 2015

The “doomer” bias failed to account for humans’ adaptability.

The “peak oil” theory was not wrong per se. The amount of oil in the ground did not change, however the amount of “recoverable” oil did. This is a matter of definition.

The amount of “recoverable” oil changed, because economic factors made it profitable to produce oil (e.g. “tar sands” oil) which, in the past could not be produced at a profit. (i.e. it’s not as if Canada just discovered the tar sands, it’s just that before now, there was a lot of oil which was easier/cheaper to produce.)

It is this same “doomer” bias that leads you to conclude that the Earth is only capable of sustainably supporting a tiny fraction of today’s population.

… I suspect that as a result some of us harbored a desire that it should all come to an end, no matter what the human cost might be. Most of us never expressed that desire - it's not socially acceptable after all - so we repressed it and instead channeled our mental energy into validating our catastrophist biases.


I believe this is just plain wrong. In my opinion, then and now, this desire was expressed and continues to be expressed.

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"worst-case thinking" bias (AKA “doomer” bias) OKIsItJustMe Aug 2015 #1
Yes, the same bias is part of my lowball estimate of our sustainability. GliderGuider Aug 2015 #2
I'm lightening up a bit on my position regarding sustainable population levels GliderGuider Aug 2015 #11
“I characterize my lowball estimates as one end of a probability distribution curve.” OKIsItJustMe Aug 2015 #12
Yep. Conditions change, and our knowledge of the factors involved do as well. GliderGuider Aug 2015 #13
“That goes for people too.” OKIsItJustMe Aug 2015 #14
Why haven’t we had a “World War” recently? GliderGuider Aug 2015 #15
World Wars strike me as “group” activities OKIsItJustMe Aug 2015 #17
Apology accepted. bananas Aug 2015 #3
You're most welcome. GliderGuider Aug 2015 #4
Very mature position FBaggins Aug 2015 #6
"Peak Oil" was the optimistic view. That filthy stuff is destroying the world. hunter Aug 2015 #5
I think this post, plus the OP, plus one of GG's former posts... FBaggins Aug 2015 #7
To be clear, my point is not that PO theory was wrong (that's a different discussion) GliderGuider Aug 2015 #8
Peak Oil seemed to be a type of psychological operation Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #9
Peak oil has two huge problems, that generally are ignored till it is to late. happyslug Aug 2015 #10
Excellent post. It's a complex problem. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #16
Psychology is a real stumbling block in group dynamics GliderGuider Aug 2015 #18
I’m going to go with “A major obstacle.” OKIsItJustMe Aug 2015 #19
I think the bandwagon underestimated the establishment psychology cprise Aug 2015 #20
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