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amandabeech

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14. Certainly, those EU nations that were either part of the Soviet Union or were
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:58 PM
Sep 2014

members of the Warsaw Pact may have a very different view of Russia than those nations fortunate enough to not have had that experience.

I would imagine that those southern EU nations that have been experiencing extreme financial hardship since 2008 want to focus only on economics.

Then there would be some who just want that Russian gas no matter what.

I can see the difficulties for the EU, but I think that there may be more than two viewpoints, and that many countries would feel very torn about all of this. The mildness of EU sanctions against Russia are a reflection of the conflicting interests both among and within countries. This piece seems to take what may be messiness of purpose and interest and turn it into hardened blocs that threaten to pull apart the EU and NATO.

On the other hand, The Nation has not had a very neutral view of the former USSR nor does it have a similar nuanced view of Russia and its current actions. If this same view "pops out" in other publications, I'd give it more credence.

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Amid Intensifying Requests, American Military Aid to Ukraine Stalls bemildred Sep 2014 #1
Ukraine Town Bears Scars of Russian Offensive That Turned Tide in Conflict bemildred Sep 2014 #2
Dutch concerned that Australia and Malaysia losing faith in Netherlands' MH17 inquiry bemildred Sep 2014 #3
Azov fighters are Ukraine's greatest weapon and may be its greatest threat bemildred Sep 2014 #4
Russia's Gazprom 'limiting gas supplies to Poland' bemildred Sep 2014 #5
Germany's Merkel pushes for implementation of Russia sanctions bemildred Sep 2014 #6
Most Russian Forces Now Out of Ukraine, Kiev Says bemildred Sep 2014 #7
Russia lays responsibility for MH17 crash on Ukraine bemildred Sep 2014 #8
Meanwhile, the price of European benchmark Brent crude oil closed at $97 and change. amandabeech Sep 2014 #9
Yes, I noticed the price of crude was down. bemildred Sep 2014 #10
Here are two more interesting memes. amandabeech Sep 2014 #12
I hadn't heard that. bemildred Sep 2014 #13
Going after Lithuanians who refused Soviet service 20 years after charges were dropped amandabeech Sep 2014 #16
Well, it seems provocative. Like he likes having NATO for an enemy threat. bemildred Sep 2014 #19
Finland and Sweden to strengthen ties with Nato amandabeech Sep 2014 #21
There's a thread going on in GD about this. amandabeech Sep 2014 #28
That makes sense. Tit for tat. bemildred Sep 2014 #30
With all this going on, amandabeech Sep 2014 #31
I think we need to cozy up to Assad and Iran a bit, or stay out. bemildred Sep 2014 #32
What you suggest might work. amandabeech Sep 2014 #33
Later. nt bemildred Sep 2014 #34
And there is this, which I don't know how much weight to put on: bemildred Sep 2014 #11
Certainly, those EU nations that were either part of the Soviet Union or were amandabeech Sep 2014 #14
Yeah, Cohen is not a guy I believe because he said it either, bemildred Sep 2014 #15
That's a good point about Merkel. amandabeech Sep 2014 #17
Ukraine may become UN Security Council non-permanent member in 2016 bemildred Sep 2014 #18
Well, that's a very reasonable statement, amandabeech Sep 2014 #22
That's what I'm getting at, the inconsistency. nt bemildred Sep 2014 #25
A big question is how long can a muddled situation stay muddled. amandabeech Sep 2014 #27
Yah. nt bemildred Sep 2014 #29
Russian ADRs Gain as EU Ends Meeting Without Sanctions bemildred Sep 2014 #20
I'll wait for the long-term trend here. amandabeech Sep 2014 #23
Apparently not happening today either: bemildred Sep 2014 #24
I'm not surprised about the Italians, and the Finns seem to be dancing around. amandabeech Sep 2014 #26
Strelkov's unhappy and van Rompuy is saying sanctions could get lifted. Benton D Struckcheon Sep 2014 #35
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