Israel/Palestine

Ken Burch

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90. No I don't. I just reject the notion that you and the rest of the hawks

Reply to King_David (Reply #87)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 09:30 PM

Nov 2015

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REPORT How the Israel Lobby Captured Hillel [View all] azurnoir Nov 2015 OP

So start your own organization and get your own funding... King_David Nov 2015 #1

Why must Hillel enforce a rigid and totally right-wing line on this? Ken Burch Nov 2015 #8

Hillell gets to decide, King_David Nov 2015 #12

Obviously they get to decide. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #13

It's not a "right wing" line. aranthus Nov 2015 #73

It's right-wing in the sense that it isn't just about BDS Ken Burch Nov 2015 #86

You really do consider yourself a spokesman for the Jewish community huh ? King_David Nov 2015 #87

No I don't. I just reject the notion that you and the rest of the hawks Ken Burch Nov 2015 #90

LOL King_David Nov 2015 #94

I'm not claiming any such thing Ken Burch Nov 2015 #99

Define "significant?" branford Nov 2015 #100

Nothing we are discussing is about my "hopes". Ken Burch Nov 2015 #103

You are of course free to believe anything you wish. branford Nov 2015 #105

I know I do ...and you speak for the "significant "Jewish dissenters King_David Nov 2015 #101

Define "hawks?" branford Nov 2015 #97

How do you define "a fair amount of people in the Jewish community?" branford Nov 2015 #88

+1000 King_David Nov 2015 #89

Well put leftynyc Nov 2015 #102

Same here in Boston. I have yet to meet Jews supporting BDS here. shira Nov 2015 #104

This is a ridiculous OP. Why would a Jewish organization, which Hillel is cater to a non-Jewish still_one Nov 2015 #76

Exactly King_David Nov 2015 #78

Scream from the rooftops leftynyc Nov 2015 #2

So a Jewish organization refuses to support anti-Semitism? What a shock!!1! Fozzledick Nov 2015 #3

It is beyond ridiculous. No Muslim group would be expected to follow an anti=Muslim agenda, or a still_one Nov 2015 #77

Hillel is doing the right thing. 6chars Nov 2015 #4

Israel isn't the only thing Jewishness can possibly be about. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #9

Maybe you should explain that to the Jewish people? King_David Nov 2015 #11

I wasn't implying anything remotely like that. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #14

Larger and Larger Jewish Groups ? Really? King_David Nov 2015 #18

On what basis do you conclude that Jewish Voice for Peace is not a majority-Jewish organization? Ken Burch Nov 2015 #23

From their website : King_David Nov 2015 #30

The fact that non-Jewish people are allowed to join... Ken Burch Nov 2015 #38

JVP doesn't believe in Israel's right to exist in peace & security. Who are you fooling? shira Nov 2015 #48

sadly... Shaktimaan Nov 2015 #81

My argument is nothing at all like the "All Lives Matter" argument. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #85

You're making very absolutist statements Shaktimaan Nov 2015 #95

No, my argument is not comparable at all to "All Lives Matter" Ken Burch Nov 2015 #98

You are conflating leftynyc Nov 2015 #33

THIS !!! +100 n/t shira Nov 2015 #49

There are 6 million Jews there to care & worry about. Just because other groups..... shira Nov 2015 #29

Calling for an end to the West Bank Occupation and the settlements Ken Burch Nov 2015 #39

Security is #1 issue. When Abbas stops his bloodlust & Hamas stops rockets, etc.... shira Nov 2015 #47

This thread exemplifies the article IMO azurnoir Nov 2015 #5

The thread is real life , Jewish life..... King_David Nov 2015 #6

so the guy who wrote the article isn;t a 'real' Jew? azurnoir Nov 2015 #7

I never said that..... King_David Nov 2015 #10

your title line azurnoir Nov 2015 #17

What a bunch of rubbish... King_David Nov 2015 #20

you wrote it azurnoir Nov 2015 #21

You're just trying to rationalize your slanderous accusation King_David Nov 2015 #25

So sorry you had leftynyc Nov 2015 #35

Amazing, is it not ? King_David Nov 2015 #36

I wish I were surprised leftynyc Nov 2015 #37

Yes you too King_David Nov 2015 #44

Really like this azurnoir Nov 2015 #41

Nope you wrote what you wrote azurnoir Nov 2015 #40

He said MOTHING leftynyc Nov 2015 #46

You intimated as much. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author King_David Nov 2015 #31

Do you believe Hillel's position doesn't represent that of the VAST majority of American Jews? branford Nov 2015 #16

it seems Open Hillel isn't so open azurnoir Nov 2015 #19

The activists wanted to take positions contrary to those espoused by Hillel. branford Nov 2015 #22

so you admit the author is correct whether or not you will acknowledge that fact azurnoir Nov 2015 #42

Huh? branford Nov 2015 #45

No Muslim college group would be open to Islamophobic incitement within its ranks. shira Nov 2015 #28

Name a US Muslim collage or university that has done that please :) azurnoir Nov 2015 #43

How is it crap? Ken Burch Nov 2015 #15

Why would Hillel want or need to engage in LGBT advocacy? branford Nov 2015 #24

It is directly material to the poster I was responding to. n/t. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #26

The topic of LGBT rights was not raised in this thread by anyone but you. branford Nov 2015 #27

And how you get away with it on an LGBT friendly forum like DU King_David Nov 2015 #50

What do you mean, another? Ken Burch Nov 2015 #51

king dave, IMHO, uses every chance he gets to whine about an R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #52

Well the truth of the matter is that Hillel actually does engage in Jewish LGBT advocacy.... King_David Nov 2015 #34

You fancy yourself as an authority on Jews and Jewish institutions? King_David Nov 2015 #32

Interesting thread. Little Tich Nov 2015 #54

You meant Zionists ... King_David Nov 2015 #55

Many non Jews as well. My husband and our entire families are Zionists. grossproffit Nov 2015 #56

Yes King_David Nov 2015 #61

No, I meant Likud, not Zionism. Little Tich Nov 2015 #60

I've been plenty leftynyc Nov 2015 #57

+1 King_David Nov 2015 #62

The world Likud? Shaktimaan Nov 2015 #80

The non-sequitur is the is the conclusion that BDS is against Israel and/or Anti-semitic. Little Tich Nov 2015 #82

Is that so? Shaktimaan Nov 2015 #83

Just ignore the BDS Movement. Little Tich Nov 2015 #84

Really? "I see no connection b/w examples of BDS I've provided & BDS movement". shira Nov 2015 #91

I still can't see the connection, even with the evidence you provided. Little Tich Nov 2015 #93

I read more about this controversy. Shaktimaan Nov 2015 #92

Frankly, very few agree with the BDS Movement, even among those who are positive to BDS. Little Tich Nov 2015 #96

BDS are much better at hasbara than hasbarists oberliner Nov 2015 #58

Bullying? Like the Canary Mission who's stated goal is ruin the lives of ProPalestinian student? azurnoir Nov 2015 #59

BDS are in the main bigots King_David Nov 2015 #63

Remember, dave, nobody believes your phantoms. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #64

so you cheer this type of thing? More about the Canary Mission azurnoir Nov 2015 #65

Doesn't bother me at all if lives of say for example a homophobic bigot was ruined King_David Nov 2015 #66

In their own words .... Israeli Nov 2015 #67

Disgusting... Seems those politicians share their homophobic feelings with the Palestinian leaders , King_David Nov 2015 #68

KD ..... Israeli Nov 2015 #70

I never mocked Shulamit Aloni King_David Nov 2015 #72

Keep telling yourself that KD ..... Israeli Nov 2015 #79

Spanish fest cancels Matisyahu gig over refusal to endorse Palestinian state azurnoir Nov 2015 #69

Me too, dave... R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #71

Would you characterize the Palestinian leadership as "racist, bible-cranking homophobes" ? oberliner Nov 2015 #74

Are you suggesting that they are comperable to R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #75

Which one does more "honor" killings? grossproffit Nov 2015 #106