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Little Tich

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44. I've recanted on Atzmon - what more do you want?

Wed Jun 1, 2016, 10:31 AM

Jun 2016

This thread was from before I knew about Atzmon supporting the anti-Semitic arguments of his anti-Semite buddies and I've changed my opinion accordingly.

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JVP Dissociates Itself From Alison Weir [View all] shira Jul 2015 OP

OP cont'd... shira Jul 2015 #1

Too bad Mondoweiss can't disassociate from Weir too. They actually promote her shit... shira Jul 2015 #2

My family always taught me leftynyc Jul 2015 #3

Bingo. That's just common sense. n/t shira Jul 2015 #6

Interesting. Little Tich Jul 2015 #4

There's no question both Weir and Atzmon are antisemites.... shira Jul 2015 #5

I remain unconvinced when it comes to Atzmon. Little Tich Jul 2015 #7

Seriously? If you can't see Atzmon's blatant Jew hatred, you have no clue.... shira Jul 2015 #8

I think our views on anti-Semitism differ due to my emphasis on meaning rather than expression. Little Tich Jul 2015 #9

What do you think about holocaust deniers? Are they legit critics? shira Jul 2015 #10

From that same ADL article. About Atzmon's anti-semitism... shira Jul 2015 #11

And now I'm curious. What have you read from Atzmon that leads you to believe..... shira Jul 2015 #12

I can't see how illegitimate (whatever that is) criticism would signify anti-Semitism. Little Tich Jul 2015 #13

Holy shit! Did you read #11 above? Okay, 3 quick YES/NO questions for you... shira Jul 2015 #14

You may be the only DU'er here who doesn't believe Holocaust Denial is anti-semitic. shira Jul 2015 #15

I'm about as disgusted as I've ever leftynyc Jul 2015 #17

I'm shaking my head. It's unreal. n/t shira Jul 2015 #20

Bumping this due to EUMC working definition of antisemitism just adopted.... shira Jun 2016 #42

There are no instances of holocaust denial that I know of that were not anti-Semitic. Little Tich Jul 2015 #18

Great! So Atzmon (holocaust denier) is an anti-semite, correct? shira Jul 2015 #19

No. n/t Little Tich Jul 2015 #25

So are you now admitting leftynyc Jul 2015 #24

No. n/t Little Tich Jul 2015 #26

So - to recap leftynyc Jul 2015 #28

You don't think a holocaust denier leftynyc Jul 2015 #16

Or that burning down synagogues is a rational act; that all Jews R responsible 4 killing Jesus.... shira Jul 2015 #21

The I/P board leftynyc Jul 2015 #22

It's not so simple. Little Tich Jul 2015 #23

Did you read what Shira posted? leftynyc Jul 2015 #27

Let's not be upset about this one guy. Little Tich Jul 2015 #29

Just this one guy? leftynyc Jul 2015 #30

And this one guy, despite what he's written about Jews & the Holocaust.... shira Jul 2015 #31

I know that we are quite far apart on the subject of ant-Semitism. Little Tich Jul 2015 #32

That's a low blow, accusing someone of making up accusations of antisemitism.... shira Jul 2015 #33

I hope you just try to misunderstand me on purpose. Little Tich Jul 2015 #34

I'd still like to know what Atzmon needs to say in order to an antisemite.... shira Jul 2015 #35

It's all about meaning (or intent) vs expression. Little Tich Jul 2015 #36

Seriously? She's probably antisemitic b/c she's an antisemite? shira Jul 2015 #37

You have to use your judgement... Little Tich Jul 2015 #38

So what you're saying is you know it when you see it. There is nothing.... shira Jul 2015 #39

No, no... Little Tich Jul 2015 #40

So what statements would "clearly show that a person is a racist"? shira Jul 2015 #41

Throughout this thread, you denied Atzmon was an antisemite despite... shira Jun 2016 #43

I've recanted on Atzmon - what more do you want? Little Tich Jun 2016 #44

There are many different examples in this thread. You denied each one. shira Jun 2016 #45

I've recanted on Atzmon - what more do you want? Little Tich Jun 2016 #46

I'm just trying to understand.... shira Jun 2016 #47

I think it would be possible to draw a parallell between Atzmon and Nietzsche's argumentation in Little Tich Jun 2016 #48

I'm trying to discuss these ideas, not Atzmon himself. shira Jun 2016 #49

If your accusations were true, then Atzmon's argumentation would of course be anti-Semitic. Little Tich Jun 2016 #50

Accusations? You don't believe Atzmon made those claims? shira Jun 2016 #51

He is as blatantly antisemitic as can be found. If you actually can't see that..... cali Jun 2016 #53

But Atzmon is indeed an anti-Semite... Little Tich Jun 2016 #55

What Atzmon has written is absurdly antisemitic according to the new working definition.... shira Jun 2016 #57

Now that Cali responded to this, it's unreal you can't see the antisemitism at the IAK website.... shira Jun 2016 #54

I've already stated twice in this thread that the IAK is an anti-Semitic site. Little Tich Jun 2016 #56

Good for them. She's a very dodgy type. LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #52

Mondoweiss on the fence regarding antisemite, Alison Weir shira Jun 2016 #58

About 100 JVP signatories on letter in support of Alison Weir.... shira Jun 2016 #59