Israel/Palestine
In reply to the discussion: Welcome To Palestine: What's Your Faith? [View all]Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)That as it was being built - that is, when it was even less complete... it was more effective, and that Shin bet and the IDF have not the first fucking clue what they're talking about?
'Cause really, it's not as though terrorists were driving the buses over the Green Line like guided missles of public transportation. They were boarding them while wearing or carrying bombs. And as we've just seen, the wall has lots of gaps now, and it had more then. I don't put a lot of stock on the cognitive abilities of a dude who's set to blow himself up like that, but I figure that they at least have enough sense to figure out how to get past a gap-filled wall. I mean could be wrong, could have been some dude sranding at the last pilon of the wall going "well fuck," I don't know. But I doubt it.
You know it probably would have gone up faster, at less expense, if it didn't weave through the West Bank like a concrete wino, right? It'd certainly be easier to patrol in that case as well. Taking longer to build a less secure perimeter at greater expense doesn't sound like "urgent security measure" to me.
Did the construction follow some weird Tibetan sacred geometry, or did they let a three-legged donkey do the surveying? if the latter, that might actually explain the preponderance of Palestinian farmland that just happened to end up on the wrong side of the wall. And the handful of encircled towns and whatnot. But again, following a wobbly ass through the hills doesn't strike me as "urgent security measure." Though it sounds a little fun.
I'm not bothered by the checkpoints or intelligence-gathering on principle (though I think we can both acknowledge that sometimes the execution leaves something to be desired). I wouldn't even be bothered by a bigass wall going up along the Green Line - like I said, no problem with what's being built on the Egypt border, or what Egypt is building at the Gaza border to stop tunnels - But you're not going to tell me that an easily-scaled, gap-filled, largely unpatrolled wall that weaves and ducks through other people's backyards and just happens to annex those yards to your own (and occasionally walls up your neighbor's house), that took five years to not-completely-build, is a highly-effective and integral measure for security.
Especially when the agencies charged with such things as security are saying it's not.
I mean you can try, but I think your time is better-spent taking your tippy equine for a hike