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In reply to the discussion: Just a FYI for LGBT members. [View all]

NICO9000

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15. I have a serious question on this
Tue Apr 17, 2012, 05:56 PM
Apr 2012

A few weeks ago, I had a post removed for the first time for insinuating that Ann Coulter may or may not be a transsexual. I wrote it in jest and in no way do I think she's anything but a female - a really horrible one, but a woman nonetheless. I am not a PC person at all when it comes to most humour and was raised on '70s National Lampoon mags, so I'm the first to admit that some of my jokes may be offensive to some.

Having the post removed was fair enough. It was a 4-2 split against me and I have no problem with that. The fact that it was deemed "hate speech" did bug me a little and I found it a bit funny as I have a gay sister who luckily enough got married before Prop H8 here in CA, but obviously, nobody here could have had any knowledge of that. In fact, she and her wife adopted an infant back in September 2010 and just last Saturday finally had the baby baptized, having gone through 17 Catholic churches who refused to do it because of their prejudice.

I've known many gay and lesbian people for decades and one thing I've noticed is that most of them have been fairly easy to identify as gay or lesbian by either voice, dress, or (don't kill me here) haircut. In 40 years of being around gay people, I have rarely found one that doesn't have one of these "identifiers" for lack of a better word (many of them have told me i have very good "gaydar" so maybe I'm more attuned to people's outward manner). Obviously, such outward characteristics could easily cause them to be discriminated against in any number of ways and I applaud any efforts to end such childish prejudices, but we live in a pretty childish and intolerant society anyway.

Anyway, my question is this: Why are bisexuals included in the LGBT community? I've only known one person who briefly identified as bi until he realized that he's actually gay. I'm wondering what sort of discrimination bisexual people could possibly encounter because of their sexuality as opposed to the very real problems that gay, lesbian and transgendered people experience daily. My main reasoning here is that how on earth could you determine someone is bi without them actually telling you? I've asked my sister and my gay friends this question and none of them had a clue how to answer this. My personal opinion is that there are probably very few "true" bisexuals out there, just people that may be a bit confused or embarrassed about their sexuality, but that's just my feelings on the subject and I mean no offense to anybody reading this by writing that.

Any thoughts on this? I'm not trying to be a jerk here, just very curious as to how bisexuals came to be included in this grouping. Thanks!

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Just a FYI for LGBT members. [View all] William769 Apr 2012 OP
Will be nice when we're all just people. flamin lib Apr 2012 #1
I really liked EarlG's clear summation of Admin's decision on this. pinto Apr 2012 #2
Good. Took some time. Call Me Wesley Apr 2012 #3
Actually I would give most of the credit to Durham D & her handling of the situation William769 Apr 2012 #4
Ooops, I'm sorry, Call Me Wesley Apr 2012 #6
Here is a list. William769 Apr 2012 #7
Thanks William but - DURHAM D Apr 2012 #16
I have been wondering over the last year HillWilliam Apr 2012 #5
It's not just Syrinx... WillParkinson Apr 2012 #8
Can't win them all with the Jury. William769 Apr 2012 #9
Thank you, MIR team and EarlG. Jamastiene Apr 2012 #10
Ignorance about and insensitivity towards transgender people is almost as rampant at DU qb Apr 2012 #11
Good for EarlG. Member was given ample time and opportunities to closeupready Apr 2012 #12
well done EarlG. La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2012 #13
Better late than never.... Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2012 #14
I have a serious question on this NICO9000 Apr 2012 #15
A lengthy request from the LGBT Hosts The Philosopher Apr 2012 #17
Thanks for your thoughtful reply NICO9000 Apr 2012 #22
LGBT & LGBTQ represent people who do not conform to traditional sex & gender norms. qb Apr 2012 #18
All bisexual folks are born with a natural tramp stamp, in the form of a pink butterfly. Zorra Apr 2012 #19
Thanks MIRT and Admin. Duncan Grant Apr 2012 #20
Finally. Thank you, MIR team and Earl G. nt Zorra Apr 2012 #21
Sad to see long time members go... sadder to see that they needed to. Fearless Apr 2012 #23
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