Gun Control & RKBA

bowens43

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30. Exactly, the problem isn't limited to high capacity magazines. Guns are the problem.

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Mon Jan 7, 2013, 11:25 AM

Jan 2013

We need a near total ban on hand guns, assault weapons and especially ammunition. Ammunition access should be limited to licensed hunters and should only be available in limited quantities during the season they are licensed. All shells/rounds should have to be accounted for before more can be purchased.

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Seems like magazine capacity in the conn. shooting was a practically a non-issue. [View all] virginia mountainman Jan 2013 OP

So we can assume your recommendation is to ban everything right down to single-shot 22's? Scuba Jan 2013 #1

My recomendation is.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #13

In other words, you have no problem watching massacre after massacre... DanTex Jan 2013 #18

I assume you mean the innocent people who can't defend themselves? iiibbb Jan 2013 #21

Did your friends need Ar-15s and hi-cap clips to scare their would-be attackers? Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #127

That's true... but when I happen to be armed it's for feral dogs... iiibbb Jan 2013 #128

a taser against three people? gejohnston Jan 2013 #129

Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #150

Sometime this year... krispos42 Jan 2013 #75

How about we limit access to guns while at the same time Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #102

This will make "Democrats un-electable in the vast majority of the nation". Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #19

Like losing the South by supporting racial equality. n/t Loudly Jan 2013 #22

Big difference: Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #26

The Bill of Rights guarantees a bundle of genuine rights which (your) 2A contravenes. Loudly Jan 2013 #41

Tired and worn out argument that carrier no weight in this debate. Clames Jan 2013 #45

Where's the contravention? Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #46

Are you claiming that people's genuine rights are sufficient to protect them from your 2A? Loudly Jan 2013 #54

Have I said that the 2A makes me a public official? Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #58

Rights protect nothing. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #130

Plus, 2A makes no mention of guns. Just saying. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #70

Wrong, as always. Straw Man Jan 2013 #110

Ordinary people of all races and in all regions inherently support the natural right to self-defense AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #28

Yep Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #34

Where in the 2nd is self defense? Oh, thats right Scalia "Corporations are People" flamin lib Jan 2013 #103

Self-defense isn't exempted from the RKBA, Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #108

Feh- genetic fallacy; do you also reject United States v. Jones? friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #111

Even a blind pig finds an acorn now and then. nt flamin lib Jan 2013 #114

BTW, the ACLU supports Citizens United... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #115

It's incomplete and basically full of shit...eom Kolesar Jan 2013 #79

Here's what Garrison Keillor said, and he didn't need to use any vulgarities to say it: AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #82

Ok, then the kids will just have to die I guess Kolesar Jan 2013 #86

The first AWB didn't stop the Columbine High School shootings. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2013 #90

Need better restrictions, then! ... eom Kolesar Jan 2013 #93

A clarification. Straw Man Jan 2013 #118

it is not. i think most people support some form of sane gun control samsingh Jan 2013 #31

Ok, than why don't they vote on it? virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #33

4 million people is far less than the voting population samsingh Jan 2013 #35

You assume that all gun rights advocates, belong to the NRA.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #36

good point samsingh Jan 2013 #52

That's incomplete and basically full of shit also...eom Kolesar Jan 2013 #80

What he said is factually correct, whether you like it or not. friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #113

You're suggesting that without the votes of NRA members Obama would have lost? Yeah, sure. Scuba Jan 2013 #48

Obama never faced a truly pro-gun Republican in his two races for President. ... spin Jan 2013 #74

"our party will push hard for truly draconian gun laws " that is incomplete... Kolesar Jan 2013 #81

So you know all of the proposed regulations that will be made Biden's task force ... spin Jan 2013 #98

But what about the NRA's constant warning that Obama was "gonna take yer guns"????? Scuba Jan 2013 #87

There is a good reason that only 4.5 million of the 80 million gun owners ... spin Jan 2013 #95

Nothing will pass, period. Dr_Scholl Jan 2013 #105

I hope you are wrong as I feel our current gun laws could be improved while ... spin Jan 2013 #106

Don't get me wrong. Dr_Scholl Jan 2013 #107

I agree. (n/t) spin Jan 2013 #109

Agree 100% brew987 Jan 2013 #126

Thankfully, very few will follow your recommendation. Starboard Tack Jan 2013 #67

Thank you for your concern intaglio Jan 2013 #76

that would be good samsingh Jan 2013 #32

then nobody will mind if we restrict them all to 10 rounds, or better yet 5 phantom power Jan 2013 #2

assuming their only purpose was to go on a killing spree generalhh Jan 2013 #6

you don't have a tactical disadvantage, since you can change them so fast phantom power Jan 2013 #7

do you know how un practical caring 2-3 5 round mags for a hand gun is? generalhh Jan 2013 #63

According to FBI data.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #10

Anyone that seriously thinks they need more than 10 round magazines to protect.... Bonhomme Richard Jan 2013 #12

Don't hold it.. virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #14

I carry a 15 round magazine in my Glock iiibbb Jan 2013 #23

Your first thought upon seeing a stray dog is to kill it? tridim Jan 2013 #53

Wow, talk about a disconnect. Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #55

So just kill em, no questions asked. That's just fabulous Glaug. tridim Jan 2013 #56

iiibbb did not say "shoot on sight." Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #57

Where do you live? WinniSkipper Jan 2013 #148

The simple answer is, "No" iiibbb Jan 2013 #71

I've never heard of dogs attacking hunters and rainy Jan 2013 #60

You've never heard of it... remarkable. iiibbb Jan 2013 #72

Oh I guess the kid should have had a 15 rainy Jan 2013 #77

don't be an ass iiibbb Jan 2013 #91

We have a different version of events in this report...but RKBA never seems to post this newer one pkdu Jan 2013 #153

doesn't matter iiibbb Jan 2013 #155

Or you can (and others ) can chose to (up-play) it. pkdu Jan 2013 #156

coyote are not a concern. Mt lion would be iiibbb Jan 2013 #157

Coyote break into house in Chicago suburb iiibbb Jan 2013 #158

Yup....and all he had was a BB gun! pkdu Jan 2013 #159

But you made a specific claim about the docile nature of Cototes that was wrong. iiibbb Jan 2013 #160

Oh, lookee here! Yorick has arisen! apocalypsehow Jan 2013 #161

My 9mm came with two 17 round magazines. Bonhomme Richard Jan 2013 #66

I don't care about your opinion. I'm the one dealing with the situation and you're at your keyboard iiibbb Jan 2013 #73

maybe you should stay in the house or in the library if you are so fearful...eom Kolesar Jan 2013 #84

Not fearful, just prudent. iiibbb Jan 2013 #92

You can try..but it simply is a box with a spring... virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #11

Then you're a good person to ask: why do you own them? phantom power Jan 2013 #51

Ok, I will tell you why virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #64

simply pointing out there is no gejohnston Jan 2013 #16

Knee jerk thoughts Twister7096 Jan 2013 #42

As they are so easy to change, there is no reason to argue against limiting capacity to 10 rounds Kaleva Jan 2013 #3

Yes, because what is special about 10 rounds? Why such an arbitrary number? virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #9

Because paint is just cosmetic, Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #24

The magazine capacity matters in combat, not in slaughters kudzu22 Jan 2013 #68

Thank you sylvi Jan 2013 #100

By the same token, no reason to argue FOR it, either. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #131

Why Does Any Hunter Or Marksman Need Anything More Than cantbeserious Jan 2013 #4

Who are you to decide what someone "needs"? virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #8

Where I hunt there are packs of feral dogs. iiibbb Jan 2013 #25

Why ask why Twister7096 Jan 2013 #44

The phrase "gun grabbing liberal" rubs me the wrong way. Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #47

What Did take Place In New Orleans - My Memory Is That The Police Indiscriminately Killed Refugees cantbeserious Jan 2013 #133

that too but gejohnston Jan 2013 #134

This Is The Reason We Have A Regulated Militia Called The National Guard cantbeserious Jan 2013 #135

national guard isn't militia gejohnston Jan 2013 #136

Beg Your Pardon - National Guard Is State-Based And Citizen-Soldier Militia cantbeserious Jan 2013 #137

which is trained and equipped by the federal government gejohnston Jan 2013 #138

Don't Plan To Split Hairs With You cantbeserious Jan 2013 #139

OK just answer me this gejohnston Jan 2013 #140

I Think You Know The Answers To Those Questions Already; Go Ask The NOPD cantbeserious Jan 2013 #141

acutually we had a couple of gun control advocates gejohnston Jan 2013 #142

I was going to reply then decided that it is..... Bonhomme Richard Jan 2013 #5

Why do you want to limit mag capacities? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #15

Yea, kind of thinking of the same thing rightsideout Jan 2013 #17

How to buy 30 rd mags, by anders breivik jimmy the one Jan 2013 #20

he was also on an island 90 minutes away from police response gejohnston Jan 2013 #40

magazine limits = Camel nose ileus Jan 2013 #27

Would be nice if we could trust each other. Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #29

exactly...NT virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #37

Exactly, the problem isn't limited to high capacity magazines. Guns are the problem. bowens43 Jan 2013 #30

LOL!!! virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #38

How is a hunter... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #43

Meat is murder too... ileus Jan 2013 #62

feral dogs & feral teds jimmy the one Jan 2013 #39

LOL virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #49

you still compiling that list of feral dogs you've killed? frylock Jan 2013 #99

Nope, just a couple the past 6 months.... virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #104

The leader of the... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #50

Thankfully I have never had to kill any dogs. iiibbb Jan 2013 #112

Good argument to get rid of ALL gun multi bullet magazines. mikeysnot Jan 2013 #59

ok, how are you going to do it?? virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #65

It will be time to... Puha Ekapi Jan 2013 #69

This place has become "Democraticgunsaround." n/t rzemanfl Jan 2013 #61

too bad this crap ends up on our "latest" page ... eom Kolesar Jan 2013 #89

It also seems like whenever I log on I end up on a DU jury about some rzemanfl Jan 2013 #97

Wow...from your link dkf Jan 2013 #78

Which contradicts mountainman's agenda to make huge clips widely available Kolesar Jan 2013 #83

What are you sitting on? Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #85

Then they just retrain using smaller clips. dkf Jan 2013 #88

No, it doesn't. Straw Man Jan 2013 #119

most of the spree killers, including the one in Norway gejohnston Jan 2013 #94

Yep agreed - why we need to outlaw all repeating arms without fixed magazines, if jmg257 Jan 2013 #96

well a non-issue to you. From your posts, we know that all gun violence victims are "non-issues" villager Jan 2013 #101

Always to the clutching... iiibbb Jan 2013 #116

It is odd how "clutching" is one of the few words that accurately... villager Jan 2013 #120

I don't know gejohnston Jan 2013 #121

well, anything that enlightens the "guns uber alles" crowd... villager Jan 2013 #122

Schusswaffen �ber alles gejohnston Jan 2013 #123

Peace to you my faceless, willfully obtuse friend. iiibbb Jan 2013 #124

"Peace" and then the insult. villager Jan 2013 #144

and "clutching" isn't an insult? iiibbb Jan 2013 #145

You would know best -- you used it first! villager Jan 2013 #146

False iiibbb Jan 2013 #147

Hmm. Fair enough. I was going by the headers. villager Jan 2013 #149

Speak for yourself-"we" know no such thing... friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #117

Hercules may have cleaned the Augean stables but he couldn't handle the posts in this thread. nt jody Jan 2013 #125

*chuckles Yep Jody, rather amazing display isn't it? virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #132

But everyone will feel so much safer if we ban SOMETHING!11!! NYC_SKP Jan 2013 #143

He also had these, but we cant regulate them Duckhunter935 Jan 2013 #151

High cap mags azxsqw Jan 2013 #152

Big yawn really. Clames Jan 2013 #154