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discntnt_irny_srcsm

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25. Which issue?
Sat Jun 21, 2014, 11:37 AM
Jun 2014

I was addressing kids shot in school with my 'think outside the box' comment. Lots of controllers seem to think more control is the answer. I believe that control is a myth.

Schools of all sizes have experienced shootings from the one room school in Nickel Mines to VA Tech with enrollment over 29,000. A common theme is that when the cops arrive, the shooter(s) kill themselves. That leads to the conclusion that cutting response time for LEO arrival would decrease the number of victims. A good idea but most seem to agree that, while elusive, prevention would be better than a cure.

The only ban that will work is one that is enforced by an armed security force around the perimeter and roving plain clothes security within. Restructuring every school in the country to operate like the White House is bound to be unfeasible and unpopular. Measures that go half way will be half effective.

The three types of lies: regular lies, damn lies and statistics. I don't like the unqualified "shooting at a school" headlines because of the folks trying to use the numbers to stir the pot.

More to follow later.

Do you perceive a difference? [View all] discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 OP
Yes, I do perceive a difference. edgineered Jun 2014 #1
Actually... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #2
OK, now I click the pass button, edgineered Jun 2014 #3
Cool discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #4
They mean two different things. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #5
Oh what? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #10
You have the right idea. ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #15
re: Every definition of "assault weapon"... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #17
Looking for technical accuracy in the disinterested media ManiacJoe Jun 2014 #19
Not disinterested. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #20
As I quote... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #22
totally different Duckhunter935 Jun 2014 #6
For the most part... discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #11
One key element is how the sentence is "framed" so to speak. blueridge3210 Jun 2014 #7
Agreed n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #12
Users' intended meaning, IMO: "Mass shooting at a K-12 school during school hours, children killed." NYC_SKP Jun 2014 #8
Sad commentary. n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #13
In terms of the FBI's four-or-more murdered, how many school Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #9
I'm not sure discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #14
The reason I asked is because the knife/gun mass murder in CA Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #21
I don't know about "school shootings" discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #23
Just what is the issue? Warring enemies seems good enough at this point. Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #24
Which issue? discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #25
2A defenders are left with the task of defining issues & problems Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #28
A tough job but someone has to do it. discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #29
Heh. A topic worthy of talk since Sandy Hook: Eleanors38 Jun 2014 #30
Terminology discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2014 #31
If a drug deal goes bad at 11pm Saturday in the parking lot of an out-of-session school... krispos42 Jun 2014 #16
Agreed n/t discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #18
At one time, there were thousands of school shootings all over America every day. beevul Jun 2014 #26
I participated in a few discntnt_irny_srcsm Jun 2014 #27
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