I don't think a rational debate on gun control is currently possible in the United States

[flamin lib]

13. You are right, Youngdem. Just look at the responses to your OP.

These people are in desperate need of a plexiostomy (placing a window in the abdomen so they can see where they are going because their head is so far up the ass). You make a simple observation about right wing paranoia and are greeted with various levels of hostility ranging from outright anger to passive aggressive dismissal.

No, there can be no rational discussion because gunlove is not a right but a religion resistant to reason, logic and empirical data. It is based on faith alone, it cannot be defended nor defeated by reason. I know, I've tried right here in this group. Remaining placid and calm in spite of the insults and name calling until I just decided to fuck it all and respond in kind.

In truth I feel sorry for the agoraphobic people who can't leave the house without a gun. Those who, like the Cialis daily guy just want to be ready when the moment is right and also like the Cialis guy fantasizes about that moment. I also pity the open carry people who feel compelled to wear their penis surrogate on the outside of their clothes.

There are many legitimate sports enthusiasts who are not among the lunatic fringe. The hunters, competitive marksmen, historians and various levels of collectors but you won't find them here or in any other gun forum. Those people are mostly quiet about their hobby which is not all consuming in their life and don't need the echo chamber of positive reinforcement for their fetish.