I informed Skinner of my support for darkangel's proposal for a SD Group in DU.

[gejohnston]

20. I agree,

however, as the military will tell you, there is no such thing as non-lethal there is only lethal and less than lethal. Pepper spray can be lethal, it can also be ineffective. There are also things like what is best when firearms are not appropriate, like living in NYC if you are not rich. I know a guy that even though he has guns for hunting and target shooting, and he doesn't need a permit, being a Wyoming resident, he doesn't carry one. In town, he carries a tactical pen.

While a celebratory blog would be bad, a "monday morning quarterback" would be good. I think analyzing why a shoot, or stab or whatever, was good or bad and what could have been done better.

I think also, self defense group should also discuss improvised weapons. If you are close enough, a couple of class room chairs across, say, Mercer's face while others secure the pistol would have naturalized the threat every bit as much as a student with a pistol.
Of course, there is always the fire extinguisher.
http://www.personaldefensenetwork.com/video/using-a-fire-extinguisher-as-a-defensive-tool-004392/

I would also like to see honest discussions about what is and what is not legitimate self defense and self defense of others, along with the laws of SYG vs DTR. Or is the defense of others a "reasonable person" or "alter ego" state. One thing I emphasis to anyone I teach how to shoot is that Wyoming is a duty to retreat state, not SYG outside of the home.